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Old 03-09-2015, 03:18 PM   #51
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Nope.

You should be looking at the mirrors, not your thumbs, or your hands, or the sterring wheel.

I am still interested to hear how the pros are teaching it. Maybe I can learn something.
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Placing one hand at the bottom of the steering wheel method allows you to concentrate on what you see in the mirror and not watch your hands!
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Old 03-09-2015, 03:46 PM   #53
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I'm not watching my hand either. I'm watching my mirrors and hoping that my wife is watching the trailer and hasn't been distracted by a cloud formation.
I'm also checking where the front of my tow is when turning to make sure it doesn't swing into a tree or one of those boulders they like to place in campgrounds.

I don't know what could be simpler. If you hold the wheel at the top, you move the wheel to the right to make the trailer go left. If you hold the wheel at the bottom, you move the wheel to the left to make the trailer go left.
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Old 03-09-2015, 04:01 PM   #54
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Our neighbor (who routinely pulls a 50+ft RV/horse trailer), gave DH backing up lessons with his smaller horse trailer before we picked up our Escape. DH did just fine; however, after leaving Chilliwack, we discovered that a dual axle, 19' trailer is just a bit different than a single axle, 15' trailer..... We're still in the learning mode, but getting better with each trip. And, despite the fact that my husband is loathe to ask for help, RV owners are more than willing to offer advice/help ... which we willingly accept as we seem to learn just a little bit more from each person.

The other thing we've learned is slow and sure wins the race. DH was so rattled in the beginning, he would become impatient/nervous for the trailer to start turning and jerk the wheel harder while hitting the gas. After a few disasters, he now knows that he has to make smaller turns, pulling forward if necessary, and lighten up on the gas.

Just for fun, try this on-line game: Trailer Reversing Game | Marops. (We did so poorly, we wondered whether we were really "trailer material" ... ha!)

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Old 03-09-2015, 04:03 PM   #55
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I don't know what could be simpler. If you hold the wheel at the top, you move the wheel to the right to make the trailer go left. If you hold the wheel at the bottom, you move the wheel to the left to make the trailer go left.
Not having to do this extra thinking would be simpler, in my opinion. As the Nike ads say, just do it. Just like turning a screw in or out, you don't really think about the direction you need to turn, you just do it.

When reversing without a trailer, I don't imagine you would take time to think about which direction to turn the wheel. This is should be the same for reversing with a trailer.

All I am saying, is that learning to do it without having to take the time to think about what direction the bottom of the steering wheel is going, seems way easier to me. Maybe the fact I learned without using tricks, makes it hard to see how some think it is easier to do so.
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Old 03-09-2015, 04:28 PM   #56
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I don't see where there is any extra thinking. Left is left.
You are speaking from your experience where you tow and reverse a trailer probably several times a week. You do what you do because you are familiar with it and the outcome.
For a newbie, there is little to learn if they just hold the wheel at the bottom instead of the top. I don't see why you find that involves extra thinking.
Maybe we should compromise and hold the wheel at the three o'clock position and move the hand down to turn the trailer left?
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Not having to do this extra thinking would be simpler, in my opinion. As the Nike ads say, just do it. Just like turning a screw in or out, you don't really think about the direction you need to turn, you just do it.

When reversing without a trailer, I don't imagine you would take time to think about which direction to turn the wheel. This is should be the same for reversing with a trailer.

All I am saying, is that learning to do it without having to take the time to think about what direction the bottom of the steering wheel is going, seems way easier to me. Maybe the fact I learned without using tricks, makes it hard to see how some think it is easier to do so.
Backing a trailer takes some thought when we take it up later in life. When in our 20's physical challenges are mastered pretty quickly. In our 60's they can be mastered but it takes practice. When driving in Ireland on the "wrong" side of the road, I would say "out loud" turning left onto the left side of the road. Doing things naturally, can get you killed in these situations.
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Not having to do this extra thinking would be simpler, in my opinion. As the Nike ads say, just do it. Just like turning a screw in or out, you don't really think about the direction you need to turn, you just do it
So you say Jim, yes normally have no trouble with a screwdriver but in the past few weeks have to stop and consider which way I am turning the hose connection, then go to remove a propane tank, oh that's the other direction

Backing yesterday afternoon into our daughter and son in law's driveway on their busy street it was easy, even going in on the blind side and as it happens no vehicle came over the top of the hill. Now the day before not so much, only because I was concerned about backing off the back of the concrete pad down a slope into the river, but a big wood block ensured that didn't happen

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When driving in Ireland on the "wrong" side of the road, I would say "out loud" turning left onto the left side of the road. Doing things naturally, can get you killed in these situations.
Whether left or right hand driving, I just remember to keep my wife in the ditch.

And yes, it does take time to learn. In no way am I saying to just do things necessarily the way your brain wants to first react, but do strive to make it a natural reaction, as opposed to relying on 'tricks' to get things done.

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Backing a trailer takes some thought when we take it up later in life. When in our 20's physical challenges are mastered pretty quickly. In our 60's they can be mastered but it takes practice.
I agree. Since I was raised on a farm I learned to back up implements and wagons with a tractor which did not have mirrors. The looking over the shoulder method is a habit hard to break. I could still get away with it with the tent trailer. The Escape forces me to use the mirrors. Occasionally I break down and poke my head out of the window to look back. BTW you live in a beautiful area. I have visited the Biltmore Estate…stunning!
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