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Old 03-25-2018, 07:14 PM   #1
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Payload, split from DISPLAY - 2017, Escape 5.0TA sale thread

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Hello,
Is this unit still available. How much different is this model compared to what is being built in 2018? We are Alameda, Northern CA getting ready to buy a 2017 Ram V6 ecodiesel. I believe that shold be enough for the 5.0TA. Thanks
I believe that you should read and understand the payload sticker , which is on the drivers side pillar .
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Old 03-25-2018, 07:26 PM   #2
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Thank you for that I will.
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Old 03-26-2018, 04:38 AM   #3
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Yes, us Ram owners know that the payload restriction on the door jamb may limit your trailer choice as the pin weight of a 5th wheel is considerably higher than the tongue weight of a pull behind. Also check that spare, most Rams have a temporary spare.
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Here's a link to a towing capacity chart for the 2017 Ram. There's a wide range of payload ratings for the V6 EcoDiesel depending on the configuration. https://m.ramtrucks.com/assets/towin...ing_charts.pdf

I am also looking into a Ram for towing a 5.0TA - with some configurations it looks like I can get the payload up above 1,700 lbs and I am partial to Rams so exploring that possibility first before looking at other makes.
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Interesting, that chart does not show the diesel and notice the v-6 has the higher carrying but smaller towing capacity, opposite of the hemi set up....having owned a diesel in the past I can tell you there are plus and minus. The eco diesel takes 10 quarts, synthetic oil and used the DEF additive, both are very expensive. My oil changes were a couple of hundred dollars each.
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There are a number of configurations of the diesel further down the chart, second page and beyond, grouped by cab configuration. Across the board the EcoDiesel configurations seem to have a lower payload rating - plenty of towing capacity for a bumper pull, but not so much for a fifth wheel. I am looking at a V8, quad cab, with 3,92 diff. After years of towing across the mountains with a somewhat underpowered truck, I absolutely want plenty of towing strength to spare and that is a bigger consideration for me than gas mileage.
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A short while back, I was at my Ram dealer getting a recall done
They had about 12 new 2017 Ram 1500 Eco Diesels lined up in the parking lot . I looked at the door sticker on approx 8 trucks .
Not one was over 1200 lbs and the majority were around 1100 lbs.
My truck , a 2014 Ram 1500 V8 , shows a payload of 1600 lbs on the internet but my door sticker says 1300 lbs.
We were going to buy a new truck this year but we are now waiting on the 2019 because the payload is going up 300 to 400 lbs. The reason being that Ram trimmed a bunch of weight by going to aluminum.
This forum has had this same discussion several times and it boils down to, do you believe the factory numbers or discard them.
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There are a number of configurations of the diesel further down the chart, second page and beyond, grouped by cab configuration. Across the board the EcoDiesel configurations seem to have a lower payload rating - plenty of towing capacity for a bumper pull, but not so much for a fifth wheel. I am looking at a V8, quad cab, with 3,92 diff. After years of towing across the mountains with a somewhat underpowered truck, I absolutely want plenty of towing strength to spare and that is a bigger consideration for me than gas mileage.
I lucked out with a 3:21 rear end, better gas mileage and un needed towing capacity trade off. Love the 8 sp auto, made a world of difference over the 5 sp in 2009 Ram.
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That's good to know - I've been wondering whether it's really necessary to get the 3.92 differential. In my old Ram with a 5 speed it would have made a huge difference I'm sure, but I've heard that with the 8 speed it's not as big a deal. I may still go for the 3.92 if I can, but if I found a truck that had everything else I wanted and the 3.21 I guess that wouldn't be a disqualifier. I'm sure a new Ram with either will drive and haul like a dream compared to my old faithful 1998 Ram.
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My 2 trucks had the same motor and identical chassis, but the 2009 had the 3:55 rear and 5 speed auto. My mileage avg 12mpg towing or not. The 2014 with 3:21 and 8 speed auto avg closer to 14-15 mpg towing and 19 unhitched.
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