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Old 12-08-2015, 12:55 PM   #31
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I've yet to loose a vehicle to it's engine, we drive them till they are pretty much junk. Living in a salted road/snow zone one would think body rust would be a problem, but it's not. The rest of the vehicles seems to fall apart, front ends rust to crap to the point where you can't get them fixed. Steel bolts, brake lines, calipers, and so forth rust out. An aluminum body doesn't help me much with longevity, we need to move.

Would like to hear how the smaller Ecoboost engine does for power when towing a 5.0TA and it's MPG when not towing. Real life, not EPA.
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Old 12-08-2015, 01:04 PM   #32
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I've yet to loose a vehicle to it's engine, we drive them till they are pretty much junk. Living in a salted road/snow zone one would think body rust would be a problem, but it's not. The rest of the vehicles seems to fall apart, front ends rust to crap to the point where you can't get them fixed. Steel bolts, brake lines, calipers, and so forth rust out. An aluminum body doesn't help me much with longevity, we need to move.

Would like to hear how the smaller Ecoboost engine does for power when towing a 5.0TA and it's MPG when not towing. Real life, not EPA.
Hi: padlin... To bad you don't have Krown in your area. http://www.krown.com Here in the rust belt my 10 yr. old Ford Taurus wagon looked like new when I gave it to my son. Krown cost $120./ yr. and worth every penny. Alf
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Old 12-08-2015, 01:30 PM   #33
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I will assume you own a Ford, which of course never rust .Now that Ford trucks are made with "Military Grade Aluminum" they should last forever !. Rust is a large issue in our area and if Ford 's aluminum body solves that problem , it will continue to be the leader in truck sales. I am not brand loyal so I may have a Ford in my future. I wish Ford would offer a small diesel but they see their future in the Eco Boost.
LOL, obvious wasn't it. I have never owned a Chev truck, though drove one company supplied one, and did not like it at all. I also drove a Dodge Ram company truck, when they first came out with the Cummins engine in them, and though that engine could out pull a locomotive, the rest of the truck rattled apart around it.

Other than a small Toyota Hilux, circa early 70's) that I just could not kill despite trying, all my other trucks have bee Fords. While not perfect at all, I have had fairly good luck with them, probably why I keep falling back to them. I am on my 9th one now.

I too am really keen to see how the aluminum body does against rust. Get this, the dealer financial guy that was taking my money, and trying to get me to buy all their additional plans and services (I did do the general maintenance one) still tried to sell me on rust proofing. I wouldn't have done it anyway, but kida weird he would even suggest it.

Ford does offer two small diesels, a 2.2L nd 3.2L in their Ranger, which for now is not available to North America, but rumoured to be brought here next year. I too certainly hope they bring the diesel offerings.
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Would like to hear how the smaller Ecoboost engine does for power when towing a 5.0TA and it's MPG when not towing. Real life, not EPA.
I think Carl has chimed in with these numbers. Maybe he could help. I can give you my results in 6 months.
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Old 12-08-2015, 01:38 PM   #34
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The problem in our area is road salt . The trucks rust out long before the engines wear out..

F150 with aluminum alloy body = no body rust.
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:19 PM   #35
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F150 with aluminum alloy body = no body rust.
Wondering. Does it have anodes that would need to be replaced ( like an aluminum boat )?
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:33 PM   #36
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I will assume you own a Ford, which of course never rust .Now that Ford trucks are made with "Military Grade Aluminum" they should last forever !. Rust is a large issue in our area and if Ford 's aluminum body solves that problem , it will continue to be the leader in truck sales. I am not brand loyal so I may have a Ford in my future.
If you want an aluminum-bodied pickup, you can get an F-150 today, an F-SuperDuty (F-250, F-350, etc) in the 2017 model year... or wait for everyone else to do them, since it's only a matter of time. It's going to be awkward for the GM marketing people, when they start selling what they have been ridiculing.

Of course aluminum does corrode - it's just not called rust - and we have yet to see how long it takes before that's a problem with Ford trucks. It's not as if any of this is new - corrosion is an issue with aluminum aircraft, and Land Rover has been putting aluminum bodies on steel frames for decades.

As long as cab and box corrosion is the issue, I'm sure that the aluminum will help greatly. The frame is still steel, so there is still a rust risk there.

In this area, vehicles die because they are crashed, junked due to failure of a major component (e.g. transmission), or just plain worn out... usually before they rust to death. Winter is long, but not much salt is used on the roads, and temperatures don't hover around freezing in the salt-slurry stage for long.

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I wish Ford would offer a small diesel but they see their future in the Eco Boost.
So the diesel pickup list is:
  • in heavy-duty: all of the Big Three (GM, Ram, Ford)
  • in full-size light-duty: Ram, soon to be Nissan (Titan XD)
  • in mid-sized light-duty: GM

You could also buy a Mercedes Sprinter, Ford Transit, or Ram ProMaster cab-and-chassis diesel and mount a box on it, but in each case you can only get a 2WD regular cab. The Ford and Ram have engines comparable in size and type to the GM Colorado/Canyon; the Mercedes is larger and its engine is nearly identical to the one in the Ram 1500, but all three engines are close in displacement and performance (3.0L and 3.2L).
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:35 PM   #37
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I've yet to loose a vehicle to it's engine, we drive them till they are pretty much junk. Living in a salted road/snow zone one would think body rust would be a problem, but it's not. The rest of the vehicles seems to fall apart, front ends rust to crap to the point where you can't get them fixed. Steel bolts, brake lines, calipers, and so forth rust out. An aluminum body doesn't help me much with longevity, we need to move.
Good point. My parents in Ontario (high salt and rust area) had to give up on their second-last car when it had no serious body rust and a good running drivetrain, only because of brake line rust (a lot of labour to replace).
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:46 PM   #38
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Ford does offer two small diesels, a 2.2L nd 3.2L in their Ranger, which for now is not available to North America, but rumoured to be brought here next year. I too certainly hope they bring the diesel offerings.
Everyone sells just about everything with a diesel in Europe and much of the rest of the world, and not here. Ford has clearly and repeatedly expressed their lack of interest in selling the new Ranger in North America, but that means about as much as a politician's campaign promises. The latest predictions of the Ranger's return appear to have been based entirely on rumours of the content of negotiations between Ford and United Auto Workers about the fate of one of Ford's Michigan Assembly Plant, and that might turn out to be true... for the 2019 model year: Jobs, plant investment cornerstone of Ford-UAW contract

The larger diesel used in the worldwide Ranger is already available in North America - that's the 3.2L five-cylinder in the Transit, called "DuraTorq" in Europe and "Power Stroke" here. They could put it in the F-150 if they wanted... engines are pretty well interchangeable within similar bulk and weight.
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:50 PM   #39
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I agree with you on Ford offering a diesel. I'm going to take a hard look at the new Nissan Titan HD. Its suppose to have a powerful diesel.
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I'm going to take a hard look at the new Nissan Titan HD. Its suppose to have a powerful diesel.
It's the Cummins 5L V8 - a compromise between the excessively large (6.7L V8) engines in the heavy-duty pickups and the less powerful and smaller (2.8L to 3.2L, 4 to 6 cylinder) engines in the commercial vans and other light-duty pickups (Ram and Colorado). This is a much bigger engine in a bigger and heavier truck than the Colorado (or Ram 1500), so I don't expect fuel consumption miracles.
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