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12-11-2015, 08:17 PM
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I did the exact same story, with the same reporter about six years ago, before I retired.
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12-11-2015, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PGDriver
Just to help keep this thread off topic. I was at a restaurant the other day and ordered a porter, the young lady asked if I wanted a pint (didn't know beer came any other way) I said yes and asked if it was 20 ounces to which which she said no its 18 ounces. I told her that a pint was 20 and not changeable. She checked and my son and I got a couple of samples, you guessed it 2 ounces.
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Our pints are sixteen. Two cups to a pint. Eight ounces to a cup.
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12-11-2015, 09:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Floating Cloud
Our pints are sixteen. Two cups to a pint. Eight ounces to a cup.
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A pint glass around here too is 20 oz.
From Wiki
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A pint glass is a form of drinkware made to hold either a British ("imperial") pint of 20 imperial fluid ounces (568 ml) or an American pint of 16 US fluid ounces (473 ml). These glasses are typically used to serve beer, and also often for cider.
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This difference for a pint in Canada compared to the US was brought about because Americans are lightweight beer drinkers, and can only handle the smaller version of a pint.
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12-11-2015, 10:01 PM
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Now Jim you are just confusing our American members more! Obviously (at least for us) our gallon being four quarts of 40 oz each, not 32 like the smaller US quart, meaning a half quart or pint is therefore 20 oz. At least I think that's right! We should stick totally with metric, at least everything is based on 10, 100, 1000 etc.
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12-11-2015, 10:08 PM
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All this talk about large pints, small pints, quarts, and liters is making me thirsty!!
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12-11-2015, 10:08 PM
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Wait until metric time takes off, that'll confuse everybody enough that they will need a pint (litre).
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12-11-2015, 10:38 PM
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All I know is that when we visited an Air Force base with the scouts, a first sergeant let me have a 105mm shell casing out of one of the brass bins. I can tell you it's about 4 inches across and there's about 100 of them in an AC130 gunship. He said it would make a nice lamp base for the living room. Rita did not agree. I probably only got an 18 oz Canadian pint in a bar in Kamloops but when you don't know any better, it just seems like a nice glass of beer on a warm June day.
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12-11-2015, 10:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
All I know is that when we visited an Air Force base with the scouts, a first sergeant let me have a 105mm shell casing out of one of the brass bins.
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U.S. military uses metric?
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12-11-2015, 11:12 PM
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Yes, metric in the military has been around since WWII. The unused barrels left over from that war are installed on some AC 130 H gunships, one of which we toured at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida in 1995. Those shells were produced at the Rock Island Arsenal where last fall's Mississippi River Rally was held nearby. Electronics on this 135 million dollar airplane were developed for Boeing by Rockwell Collins in my home town of Cedar Rapids Iowa. Additionally, a good friend of mine was a highly decorated Green Beret in Vietnam Nam. His rifle of choice 6 Mike Mike. 244 caliber which was overlooked by sportsmen in peacetime when the .243 gained favor. Today the 5.56 mm is the standard issue for our troops. But I digress.
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12-12-2015, 09:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PGDriver
Drove from southern Alberta to Chilliwack (Escape) then up to Prince George BC then home and averaged 17.2 Imp. on that trip.
2015 GMC Sierra, 6.2, 8 speed, crew cab 4 X 4
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Doug, I assume this is a diesel?
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12-12-2015, 10:15 AM
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Doug, I assume this is a diesel?
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Hi Mike
Nope its a gas engine, same one as in the corvette. Another forum member bought the same truck and picked up a Escape 5er and gets about the same mileage.
I have had 2 Ford, 2 Toyota, 2 Datsun and 4 GMC/Chev trucks and this one is by far my favourite for both towing and as a daily driver.
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Doug
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12-12-2015, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PGDriver
Hi Mike
Nope its a gas engine, same one as in the corvette. Another forum member bought the same truck and picked up a Escape 5er and gets about the same mileage.
I have had 2 Ford, 2 Toyota, 2 Datsun and 4 GMC/Chev trucks and this one is by far my favourite for both towing and as a daily driver.
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Doug,
That is very good mpg. I have been averaging about 15 while towing the 5.0 TA. But, I'm not exactly easy on the pedal. I'm leaning towards a diesel for my next truck, and that's why I asked. I had a gas Silverado for everyday driving in the past and it got very good mpg. Maybe I'll have to take another look at GMC.
Thanks for the info.
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12-12-2015, 10:49 AM
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Pickups with 31 mpg
Mike one thing you want to make sure is that the truck has the NHT Max Trailering package.
The fuel economy with the 6.2 is better then my 2011 with the 5.3 both towing and not. By the way I'm not easy on the right pedal either and with 420 HP you can have lots of fun [emoji56]
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12-12-2015, 01:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PGDriver
Mike one thing you want to make sure is that the truck has the NHT Max Trailering package.
The fuel economy with the 6.2 is better then my 2011 with the 5.3 both towing and not. By the way I'm not easy on the right pedal either and with 420 HP you can have lots of fun [emoji56]
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Definitely would get the max trailing package. Chevy/GMC does have impressive mpg numbers.
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12-12-2015, 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PGDriver
Drove from southern Alberta to Chilliwack (Escape) then up to Prince George BC then home and averaged 17.2 Imp. on that trip.
2015 GMC Sierra, 6.2, 8 speed, crew cab 4 X 4
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Originally Posted by Scuba55
Doug, I assume this is a diesel?
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No, the "6.2" is the EcoTec3 6.2L V8 gasoline engine; the truck version is the L86, and the car version (more power, but at higher engine speed) is the LT1. It is the larger size of the current generation (Gen V) of the GM small-block. The transmission is GM's 8L90.
GM's big pickup diesel - the Duramax V8 - is currently at 6.6 litres displacement.
I can see how one might expect this to be a diesel - the fuel economy is impressive for the truck size and engine power.
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12-12-2015, 04:34 PM
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I wonder what the rear end gearing as well as the transmission is?
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12-12-2015, 04:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
I wonder what the rear end gearing as well as the transmission is?
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I believe that GM has only one heavy-duty 8-speed transmission, so...
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Originally Posted by Brian B-P
The transmission is GM's 8L90.
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GM's own 2016 Powertrain Product Portfolio confirms that the 8L90 is the only choice (in a couple of variations).
Both links provide the transmission ratios; I don't know what final drive ratio Doug has.
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12-14-2015, 12:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
I wonder what the rear end gearing as well as the transmission is?
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I assumed that this was referring to Doug's Sierra, which he describes as
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2015 GMC Sierra Crew 4X4 6.2 8 speed
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If so, the 2015 Sierra specs say that the MAX Trailering Package (NHT) includes - among other goodies - a 3.73:1 rear axle ratio. It's a 4x4, so that's the front axle ratio as well.
Any axle ratio is meaningful only in the context of the engine characteristics, the transmission gearing, and the tire diameter.
If the question was about the Colorado/Canyon diesel, it appears in the specs that the 2WD is only available with diesel in the crew cab longbox, and that combination comes only with a 6-speed automatic transmission and 3.42:1 final drive ratio. GM Powertrain's 2016 Product Guide says this is the 6L50 transmission (for all Colorado automatic configurations). There is a 4.10:1 ratio, but not for this configuration. Note that the Colorado/Canyon has smaller-diameter tires than a Sierra.
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12-14-2015, 12:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
I don't know if either the Ram's EcoDiesel or the Colorado/Canyon's Duramax have an exhaust brake (I'm sure they don't have compression-release brakes).
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In going through a "build & price" exercise for a Colorado to find the rear axle ratio options, I noticed that selecting the Duramax automatically adds a set of features which includes an exhaust brake.
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12-14-2015, 07:51 AM
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Most of the Ram's with tow/haul mode have an engine brake in that once you tap your brake downhill it maintains that speed downhill using the transmission and engine drag. As far as the rear end ratio, with the lower 3.73 which is good for towing, a higher ratio will increase economy. I'm surprised with those numbers based upon the spec's.
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