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Old 06-30-2018, 09:44 AM   #1
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Real Tongue Weights on a 21'

We're about to order a new 21' Escape. In the past we've had a 16' Scamp, 17' Casita, 25' Bigfoot and now a 1995 Lance. The Bigfoot had too much tongue weight and we always have to empty the grey/black and fill the fresh tank on the Lance to get to 10% and decent towing. We carry a Sherline scale with us.

We will be purchasing a pretty well decked out 21' . For those who have a 21', what is your measured tongue weight?

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Old 06-30-2018, 09:56 AM   #2
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For those who have a 21', what is your measured tongue weight?
Tongue weight on our 2016 (classic) 21 is right at 500 lbs. We have most of the options on ours (including front storage box), except for solar and electric tongue jack. Storage box just has hoses, leveling legos and chocks.
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:14 AM   #3
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Mine (classic) was at 500 lbs, but you can lighten that somewhat with filling the fresh water tank in the rear.
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Mine (classic) was at 500 lbs, but you can lighten that somewhat with filling the fresh water tank in the rear.
I don't know what the magic is about 500 lbs, but that is also the tongue weight when fully loaded of my 2017 (new generation) 21. Trailer weight is 4600 lbs.

There are 11 Escape 21's listed on my spreadsheet with an average tongue weight of 452 lbs.
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Old 06-30-2018, 01:47 PM   #5
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My 2018 Escape 21 tongue weight is 440 lbs (using a Sherline scale). That is unloaded with the tanks almost empty. We don't have the roof top AC or Solar, but we do have the front storage box. The weight of our built trailer empty is 3295 lbs, which I realize is lighter than most.
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Old 07-04-2018, 12:49 PM   #6
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I am building a mount for my Honda generator for the rear carrier of my Escape 19. I was thinking about the impact on tongue weight so I got a Sherline scale to check. I first weighed the tongue and noted the weight at 420 pounds. Then I got to thinking (always dangerous) and realized that I had the equalizer bars and the tow vehicle stinger in the front storage box, so I took them out and re-weighed, and the weight was now 405 pounds. Is tongue weight defined as the weight not including hitch parts or should the equalizer bars and/or stinger be included since they connect to the trailer and weigh down the tow vehicle?
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Old 07-04-2018, 01:17 PM   #7
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I think you may have to hook up the trailer without the bars, have the trailer weighed and then do the same with the w/d set up. You will then see the impact of the w/d redistributing some of your tongue weight forward to your tow and rearward to your trailer. Then do the same with the generator on the rear. This should give you you answer.
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Just before Osoyoos we weighed our 21 tongue. It was 715 lbs. We have a Honda 2000i and an additional 2 gallons gas on top of a metal box around the propane tanks. The black, tank was about 1/2 full.
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That is heavier than most, do you have any issues with the truck rear suspension or do you use a w/d set up?
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That is heavier than most, do you have any issues with the truck rear suspension or do you use a w/d set up?
Our TV is a Tundra with Super Springs installed. We use a regular hitch with an anti-sway control bar. We get about an inch of rear end drop when hitching up the trailer.
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