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Old 02-22-2016, 08:06 PM   #11
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thanks everyone for all the great info.....

it sounds as if I'll be OK...... (?)

I have read many threads here.... I seem to recall that some 21' owners measured around 500 lb actual hitch weight.... some a wee bit less.....



will search again for threads....
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Old 02-22-2016, 08:25 PM   #12
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My Escape 21' weighed 500# on tongue and 3800 over the axles, combined was 4300#. The GVWR capacity is 4400# for the trailer. I travel with the fresh 50% full and the black empty and this weight was returning from Osoyoos with 2 weeks of "stuff" in the camper. My Escape 19 had a tongue weight of 400#, both trailers had the front storage box option which weighs maybe 45# and another 100# of cargo. But if you eliminate the front box, you have nowhere to carry you power cord, plastic levelers, water hoses, wheel chocks, shovel.
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:21 PM   #13
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You should have no trouble keeping the tongue weight below 500# if you pay attention to how you load it and weigh it often to figure out what needs to go where.
My 2014 21' with options, full propane and no water weighed 3600# total when I picked it up.... 3220# on the axles and 360# on the tongue.
Most of us 21 owners get into the 500# tongue weights because the underbed storage is so darn useful.... oh ya - that front box
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:58 PM   #14
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Our 21's weights have been similar to those reported above. Even though our tug is rated to tow 6100 pounds, we, too, have to be careful to keep things within all the various capacity limits (for us it's the tug's GVWR that's toughest to manage).

We have the front storage box (and really wouldn't like to be without it) but we keep lightweight things there (hoses, lightweight folding furniture, lightweight wheel chocks, etc.). Heavier stuff (Anderson levelers) we learned to store further back. I agree that you could get by with one propane tank -- or at least one that's not very full -- it does seem to last and last.

Good luck to you LosAngeles -- we promise you're going to have a blast with your new Escape, and we'll see you out there.
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Old 02-22-2016, 10:00 PM   #15
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Saw one trailer where the guy had replaced one of two propane tanks with a version of a 5 gallon bucket where he kept his tools.
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:13 PM   #16
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I just refilled my second propane tank today.
Not sure how much use a bucket of tools would be if I ran out of propane in the middle of the night, 60 miles up a gravel road.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:43 AM   #17
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Old 02-23-2016, 11:21 AM   #18
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thanks everyone for all the great info.....

it sounds as if I'll be OK...... (?)

I have read many threads here.... I seem to recall that some 21' owners measured around 500 lb actual hitch weight.... some a wee bit less.....



will search again for threads....
You can download an Excel spreadsheet of "Trailer Weights in the Real World" at my website. This was started by Frederick Simson at the Fiberglass Trailer Forum when he took a set of scales to rallies. He has retired, no longer has access to the scales, and gave me permission to make it available (and to add individual supplied weights). There are a few Escape 21's on the spreadsheet. Steve LaBroad provided an addition that lets you filter by different factors, then find averages, etc.
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Old 02-23-2016, 11:23 AM   #19
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We have been on the road about a month. We have filled three propane tanks in that time, always after I noticed that the regulator had switched to the other tank. I appreciate that the propane switches to the other tank rather than leaving us to get cold during the night. so I would be reluctant to have a single propane tank. YMMV.
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random thoughts:

- its not like the car explodes with a hitch weight of 501lb

- U shaped dinette would allow convenient inside tail storage

- I have a hard time getting my tongue weight to 500 (all twice that I have measured). No front box, usually bike on back and full fresh h2o

- my truck bed usually has the heavy stuff, so the relatively cramped underbed area is light weight stuff


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