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Old 02-28-2016, 02:34 PM   #51
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On the interstates I'll drive about 60 mph and on secondary roads the speed limit 'cause I don't like people following behind and pull outs are one of my best friends. Anything over 60 and the mpg starts going down in a hurry.

I really like having lots of space between me and the car ahead. Ya see, I'm not as young as I'd like to think and my reaction time has slowed a bit so this gives me that extra moment to react. I may get to point B after everyone else but I'll be relaxed and ready for a good cold one.
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On the interstates I'll drive about 60 mph and on secondary roads the speed limit 'cause I don't like people following behind and pull outs are one of my best friends. Anything over 60 and the mpg starts going down in a hurry.



I really like having lots of space between me and the car ahead. Ya see, I'm not as young as I'd like to think and my reaction time has slowed a bit so this gives me that extra moment to react. I may get to point B after everyone else but I'll be relaxed and ready for a good cold one.

Or a nice cup of coffee with Baileys

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Heading home through Idaho and Washington I found myself on a long, winding climb on a secondary highway, and found myself behind a tandem gravel truck.
He obeyed the signs to use the pullouts, but the pullouts were, at most, a couple hundred feet long. He didn't stop because he would be a traffic hazard trying to pull back into traffic.
I made two attempts to overtake him ( towing the trailer ). The second time I almost got alongside and he pulled into my lane. Don't blame him cause he really had nowhere else to go.
Some highway engineer may have thought these pullouts were a good idea, and so did the law makers, but, in practice they were a hazard.
So, I sat behind that gravel truck for a half hour or more, climbing the hills at 10 mph at times.
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On the interstates I'll drive about 60 mph and on secondary roads the speed limit 'cause I don't like people following behind and pull outs are one of my best friends. Anything over 60 and the mpg starts going down in a hurry.

I really like having lots of space between me and the car ahead. Ya see, I'm not as young as I'd like to think and my reaction time has slowed a bit so this gives me that extra moment to react. I may get to point B after everyone else but I'll be relaxed and ready for a good cold one.
Even when not towing I add the trailing distance a tail gater does not give me. That way when the white tail deer decides to change direction the tail gater does not rear end me. If I am at 70 MPH and the driver behind me is 5 car lengths or less with no one ahead I just slow down when we reach a passing place. I am usually ready to hit the brakes as he/she goes by in case they come back in too soon spraying snow/gravel at my windshield.

I don't worry too much about mule deer. I am ready to stop for Mr. Moose.
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Heading home through Idaho and Washington I found myself on a long, winding climb on a secondary highway, and found myself behind a tandem gravel truck.
He obeyed the signs to use the pullouts, but the pullouts were, at most, a couple hundred feet long. He didn't stop because he would be a traffic hazard trying to pull back into traffic.
I made two attempts to overtake him ( towing the trailer ). The second time I almost got alongside and he pulled into my lane. Don't blame him cause he really had nowhere else to go.
Some highway engineer may have thought these pullouts were a good idea, and so did the law makers, but, in practice they were a hazard.
So, I sat behind that gravel truck for a half hour or more, climbing the hills at 10 mph at times.
Are you talking about pullouts (which are a place to stop), or passing lanes (a limited section of highway with an extra lane, usually with a "keep right except to pass" sign)? If these were pullouts, there wouldn't usually be a sign saying to use them, and driving through them without stopping would be dangerously misusing them. If they were passing lanes, then they were apparently poorly placed (not on the slowest climbs), or you just didn't have enough difference in performance to take advantage of them and you should have followed the gravel truck up them.

At an actual pull-out, the truck would not have been a hazard pulling back into traffic from stopped, because he would have waited for a sufficient gap in traffic, just like any vehicle joining the highway from an intersecting road with a stop sign.

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The pull outs I'm use to are areas where you you can stop and they usually have a garbage can and some have washrooms.

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These pullouts, not passing lanes, were all of 200 feet long, gravel, and uphill ( considerable grade ). If that tandem were to have stopped it would take a long time to get back on the highway having lost all his momentum.
It was mandatory to use the pullouts according to signs.
I would anticipate, pound the accelerator to the floor and because of the slow speed we were going, and the grade, I had no hope to get past.
In one case, the pullout ended and the road went left around a blind curve. If there had been a car passing, it would have hit the oncoming car head on.
200' may be an exaggeration. More like the length of three tandem gravel trucks.
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There are areas on some BC highways where you see a sign saying "Slow Vehicles Use Pullout To Let Vehicles Pass" or something like that. The ones I have observed are very short sections, like Glen described, where the slow vehicle would most likely have to come to full stop to allow for the traffic behind to pass. The slow vehicle would then have to merge back onto the highway when safe to do so.

My impression is that these "Pullouts" are not utilized by most drivers for the exact reason that Glen stated - it would often be difficult for the slow moving vehicle to get back into the line of traffic. And I am wiling to bet that most people don't even see the signs or understand what a "Pullout" is I have seen some people use them and have used them myself on one or two occasions (usually to let someone who is tailgating to get past).

There are a couple of these "Pullouts" along the Sea to Sky Highway 99 from West Van to Squamish. They are located in very curvy sections closer to Horseshoe Bay. Seldom are they used, especially during busy times.

In BC, places to "Stop" are called "Rest Areas "and some may have washroom facilities. You can nap but are not supposed to camp overnight in these areas.

Here is a link where you can find the 170 or so "Rest Stops" or "Rest Areas" in BC on a map.
BC Highway Rest Areas

So we have "Pullouts", "Rest Areas" and "Passing Lanes".

And we still have accidents.

Go camping and stay close to the fire, a nice safe place to pull over.

No sense to be "Dead Right" by not being able to pass that gravel truck if he is not going to stop in the "Pullout". Best just to stay behind and hope for a "Passing Lane" or straight road section ahead.
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You'd be nuts to use some pullouts. It would take an hour for traffic to ease enough to get back on the highway.
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