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Old 08-18-2010, 12:46 PM   #11
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I pull a 17B that weights about 3000 lbs, and has a tongue weight of over just 300 lbs. with a H-6, 245hp, 2010 Outback. Subaru sets their 3000 lb. limitations based on the lightweight 1.5 inch hitch that they sell. I found a 2 inch hitch that is bolted to the frame, and is rated for 7,000 lbs. My dealer told me that I should have no problems. The car and trailer goes over the mountains without a strain.

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I pull a 17B that weights about 3000 lbs, and has a tongue weight of over just 300 lbs. with a H-6, 245hp, 2010 Outback. Subaru sets their 3000 lb. limitations based on the lightweight 1.5 inch hitch that they sell. I found a 2 inch hitch that is bolted to the frame, and is rated for 7,000 lbs. My dealer told me that I should have no problems. The car and trailer goes over the mountains without a strain.

Jerry
I've got a Toyota RAV4 and 17B. The factory hitch was only class II and cost a thousand dollars. The Toyota dealer brought a guy into their shop and he installed a class III hitch ( you need that for the equalizer ), installed the Prodigy brake controller and upgraded wiring and it cost me $650 - through the dealer.
So, my advice is scrap the Subaru "factory" hitch and take it to a respected hitch dealer.

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Old 08-18-2010, 07:01 PM   #14
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Re: Subaru Outback and Escape 15

Eric, I'll owe you a coffee or beer sometime

And everyone else ... we spoke at length with Reace and Tammy today. Reace is recommending a class 3 hitch with the stabilizer. If we go ahead and purchase an Escape 15A we will have to be somewhat mindful of our options and load, but we should be okay.

And BTW, for future reference, the tongue weight of the 15A is 190 pounds, not 140 ... Tammy corrected this today. Reace explained -- very patiently, as we are new to this -- how the stabilizer would help us handle that tongue weight. Ultimately he thinks we'll be good to go. And so did the people at Scamp, but I have to say that Reace's explanations were a whole lot more thorough and understandable (as opposed to the quicker and off the cuff responses from Scamp). Where we didn't quite believe the Scamp folks, we DO believe what Reace was laying out, and we believe it will work.

Now, the question is ... can we come up with the $$ difference!?

Fingers crossed,

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Re: Subaru Outback and Escape 15

Maybe I'm wrong, but the term isn't "stabilizer" hitch. It's "equalizer" hitch. You'll need the proper term to talk to the hitch installer.
Don't ask me how, but the equalizer hitch transfers weight at the hitch to the front wheels of your tow vehicle.

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Eric, I'll owe you a coffee or beer sometime

And everyone else ... we spoke at length with Reace and Tammy today. Reace is recommending a class 3 hitch with the stabilizer. If we go ahead and purchase an Escape 15A we will have to be somewhat mindful of our options and load, but we should be okay.

And BTW, for future reference, the tongue weight of the 15A is 190 pounds, not 140 ... Tammy corrected this today. Reace explained -- very patiently, as we are new to this -- how the stabilizer would help us handle that tongue weight. Ultimately he thinks we'll be good to go. And so did the people at Scamp, but I have to say that Reace's explanations were a whole lot more thorough and understandable (as opposed to the quicker and off the cuff responses from Scamp). Where we didn't quite believe the Scamp folks, we DO believe what Reace was laying out, and we believe it will work.

Now, the question is ... can we come up with the $$ difference!?
Fingers crossed,

And many thanks,

Elizabeth
It will be more than worth the difference in $$, I'll assure you. If necessary, it'll be worth the wait, because you'll have your Escape for many a year! And loving every minute! Long after the extra cost has been forgotten.
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Eric, I'll owe you a coffee or beer sometime

And everyone else ... we spoke at length with Reace and Tammy today. Reace is recommending a class 3 hitch with the stabilizer. If we go ahead and purchase an Escape 15A we will have to be somewhat mindful of our options and load, but we should be okay.

And BTW, for future reference, the tongue weight of the 15A is 190 pounds, not 140 ... Tammy corrected this today. Reace explained -- very patiently, as we are new to this -- how the stabilizer would help us handle that tongue weight. Ultimately he thinks we'll be good to go. And so did the people at Scamp, but I have to say that Reace's explanations were a whole lot more thorough and understandable (as opposed to the quicker and off the cuff responses from Scamp). Where we didn't quite believe the Scamp folks, we DO believe what Reace was laying out, and we believe it will work.

Now, the question is ... can we come up with the $$ difference!?

Fingers crossed,

And many thanks,

Elizabeth
E, a couple things you can be sure of. 1) The info you get from Reace and Tammy will be honest and truthful. As you can tell from all the folks here, they want satisfied customers, not just customers. 2) The difference in cost between a Scamp and Escape is due to higher quality components and better manufacturing processes. If you value quality the choice is an easy one in my opinion!
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Re: Subaru Outback and Escape 15

Baglo, my bad -- you're right. It's the end of a long day ...

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Re: Subaru Outback and Escape 15

Baglo, you are correct about the term "equalizer hitch". Another term for the same thing is "weight distribution hitch", often referred to as WDH.
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Old 08-19-2010, 06:39 PM   #20
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Re: Subaru Outback and Escape 15

Ok, let me throw one more wrinkle in here ...

Given all I've said about our car ... do any of you think we could successfully pull a 17A with a equalizer hitch?

I'm guessing not, though I just looked at the numbers here:

http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...rld-43010.html

(thanks Eric) ...

And I note that most of the 17s are actually BELOW our max tow of 2,700 pounds. The issue is the tongue. We're rated at 200.

Thoughts? Again, this is a 2005 Subaru Outback.
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