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Old 09-24-2018, 12:37 PM   #1
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the last 2 decisions for our 21' build sheet

Hi - we'd love some help with these last 2 decisions:

1. Do we need the sway bar control? We will be towing with a new F150 that is rated to tow 12,000 lbs. The dealers says we don't need it. What do you think?

2. Do we need the highlift axel? We are planning on taking the trailer north - hopefully all the way to Inuvik. Significantly rough roads. Does anyone else have this? Has it been useful?

Any input from the vast pool of experience in the Forum is appreciated!

Deirdre & Robin Love on Vancouver Island
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You normally will not have any sway with a dual axle Escape as long as you have proper weight on the tongue. If however you have too much weight that your tow vehicle is not level, then you may need a weight distribution hitch to level out your truck. So it is a wait and see situation. As far as high axle, it really is not high axle, your axle is the same height, the trailer sits 4" higher. To me, it does not look good and may impact gas mileage due to extra height.
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As far as high axle, it really is not high axle, your axle is the same height, the trailer sits 4" higher. To me, it does not look good and may impact gas mileage due to extra height.
I'm pretty sure that ETI is using the Torflex lift kit which is just over 2-1/2" and as said it is only a spacer lifting the frame/body higher off the axle. The axle tube stays the same height. There is a 2010 for sale right now advertising 4" of lift, but I suspect some of that is due to a modified axle arm start angle (which does lift everything). I don't know if Reace will do modified axles.

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I think the answer to "need" is no.

Even if I don't need my WDH I still prefer the feel of the tow with it. Even though my new F-150 won't likely need it I'll probably still use it.

The problem in remote rough area roads isn't so much ground clearance but sharp rocks cutting tires. Unless you're planning on driving up dry creek beds I won't worry about a high lift axle. We've traveled lots of very rough roads, it wasn't high rocks or dips that were the problem, just avoiding the worst of rocks that were likely to cut a tire.

My priority would be to carry a second trailer spare tire.

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Old 09-24-2018, 02:12 PM   #5
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Super helpful - and fast - thanks!
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1. Do we need the sway bar control? We will be towing with a new F150 that is rated to tow 12,000 lbs. The dealers says we don't need it. What do you think?
Are you asking about a weight-distributing hitch (WDH) system, or a sway control device, or a WDH which also acts as a sway control?

A WDH should not be needed with a full-size pickup truck for any Escape trailer... but some people like using them. The combination of a trailer which is excessively tongue-heavy and truck with inadequate rear suspension and/or too much cargo in the box may need a WDH to tow well.

A sway control device should not be needed for any Escape with any tow vehicle... but some people prefer to use them. If a particular trailer needs this for stability, it is probably improperly loaded and that should be fixed whether you use a sway control device or not.

Since you don't need either to be within the vehicle's rated limits, one approach is to not use either, and only add them later if you find that you would prefer them.
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We towed our new 21 home to Texas ( 2300 miles) no sway or weight hitch, just a plain hitch. We had no swat whats so ever coming home. We tow with 1500 Z71 4x4 5.3. We have the high lift option
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While we don’t need a WDH for either sway or weight distribution with our 19 and F-150 combo, we always use it because the combo just feels better. The two feel much more unified and porpoising in particular is greatly reduced. Don’t need WDH, but very happy to have and use it. Your mileage may vary
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:52 AM   #9
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Thanks! Your input makes our decisions clear - no to the high lift axle and the sway bar thing is a prefer issue that we can wait and see about.

On another note - what water filters are you using? Any that you would recommend?
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IMHO they are more PITA and not worth the trouble. We either take water from home in the tank of use 3 gal containers. Only use the cg water for flushing.
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