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Old 04-14-2017, 06:06 PM   #1
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Third row seat

Killing time in the mall parking lot and perused 2008 RAV4 manual which raised a question.
Why would a vehicle with the same V6 and tow package be able to carry more when equipped with third row seats? I would think the seats would add their own weight and subtract from capacity.

I'm curious because I am pondering replacing the RAV with a 5 passenger 4Runner. Would the 7 passenger actually tow/carry more? Makes no sense to me.
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Old 04-14-2017, 06:12 PM   #2
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The 3rd row seats are made of anti-matter. There, that was easy!

Then again, maybe the 2nd and 3rd row seat's quarks are in quantum entanglement....
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Killing time in the mall parking lot and perused 2008 RAV4 manual which raised a question.
Why would a vehicle with the same V6 and tow package be able to carry more when equipped with third row seats? I would think the seats would add their own weight and subtract from capacity.

I'm curious because I am pondering replacing the RAV with a 5 passenger 4Runner. Would the 7 passenger actually tow/carry more? Makes no sense to me.
While I haven't seen it in writing, I was told by a Toyota salesman when I was looking for my 2010 RAV4 that the reason for the higher capacity was heavier rear suspension. While I could see that raising tongue weight, I don't see how it increased towing capacity...
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I agree with Eric. The third seat is like those zero-gravity chairs which I have yet to figure out either.
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I agree with John Vermilye. Grandma and Aunt Emma in that far back seat, even on the Highlander would have been tight and as dad would have said " She's down on the overloads Davey"
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I agree with John Vermilye. Grandma and Aunt Emma in that far back seat, even on the Highlander would have been tight and as dad would have said " She's down on the overloads Davey"
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The rear seats in the "7" passenger RAV4 probably wouldn't fit either Grandma or Aunt Emma. About all that would fit are small kids...
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While I haven't seen it in writing, I was told by a Toyota salesman when I was looking for my 2010 RAV4 that the reason for the higher capacity was heavier rear suspension. While I could see that raising tongue weight, I don't see how it increased towing capacity...
Why wouldn't they make the heavier suspension an option? Do I have to leave the 3rd row seats in my carport to get more capacity?
I can't follow the logic. I can see a heavier suspension with 5 seats might ride rough, but how's that different than 3rd row seats that nobody sits in?
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Why wouldn't they make the heavier suspension an option? Do I have to leave the 3rd row seats in my carport to get more capacity?
I can't follow the logic. I can see a heavier suspension with 5 seats might ride rough, but how's that different than 3rd row seats that nobody sits in?
I can't answer that! I do know that when I brought home the 17B, I went to my local dealer and asked if the rear suspension on my RAV4 Sport could be exchanged for that of the 7 passenger. All I got was a smile...
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Well, it took me six-years to get an explanation from Toyota about weight distribution hitch, so I don't expect an answer from them.
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I have a hard time accepting that any vehicle with third-row seating truly warrants the designation of sport UTILITY vehicle (SUV). When the focus is on increased passenger capacity, at the expense of cargo capacity, that just sounds like an old-fashioned station wagon to me, or at the very least a minivan, so why not call a spade a spade? In our case, it's just my wife and me, so we don't even need second-row seating, let alone third. But it's almost impossible to find a new model SUV these days with any towing capacity to speak of in which the designers didn't sacrificed usable cargo capacity to add a nearly useless third row of little-people seats. Go figure.... (Now stepping back off my soap box.)
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