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Old 10-09-2014, 10:01 AM   #141
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Sure seems to be alot of different info on whats best. My take is to keep them inflated properly, clean and protected from uv as much as possible and replace them when they are worn out
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Old 10-09-2014, 10:03 AM   #142
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Many of us have occasional-use motor vehicles that are parked for months at a time: convertibles, motorcycles, race cars, and so on. Does anyone block them up, pull the wheels, and take the tires in the house for storage... or Baglo's spa day?
I won't be doing that for a travel trailer.

The differing inflation directions are interesting. Does either source provide the logic behind the recommendation?
Actually Yes I do Brian
My summer car I place on stands. On both my trailers I have a seperate set of "storage tires" that go on them at the end of season and I raise the trailers off the ground. The good tires go into covered storage. What I don't do is the spa treatment.
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Old 10-09-2014, 10:04 AM   #143
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Brian - nope - no explanation. Here is Goodyear's from page 13 of the Tire Guide pdf:
Storing your vehicle properly helps protect your tires.
• Keep your vehicle in a cool, dry storage area out of direct sunlight and UV rays.
• Unload your vehicle so that minimum weight is on the tires.
• Inflate your tires to recommended operation pressure plus 25%, but don’t exceed the rim manufacturer’s inflation capacity.
• Thoroughly clean your tires with soap and water before storing them to remove any oils that may have accumulated from the road.
• Move your vehicle at least every three months to help prevent cracking and flat-spotting, but avoid moving it during extremely cold weather.
• Place your vehicle on blocks to remove the weight from the tires. If the vehicle can’t be put on blocks, make sure the storage surface is firm, clean, well-drained and reasonably level.


And Carlisle from page 94 of their catalog:

– Keep trailer tires in a cool dry place and out of direct sunlight
during storage.
– Use tire covers to protect tires from the harsh effects of direct
sunlight, moisture and temperature extremes.
– During extended storage, use a thin piece of wood or other surface
barrier under tires to extend tire life. For seasonal or extreme long term storage, elevate the trailer on blocks to take the weight off the tires. Reduce the air pressure and cover the tires to protect them from direct sunlight.
– Replace trailer tires every three to five years.
– If you experience a series of successive blowouts, something is
wrong with your setup, it is not a tire problem.


Notice the Carlisle recommendation to replace every 3-5 years.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:43 PM   #144
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Does anyone block them up, pull the wheels, and take the tires in the house for storage...?
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Actually Yes I do Brian
Ian, having seen photos and descriptions of your Boler, I am certain that you are more diligent and far more energetic than I am. I don't feel bad about not achieving your standards
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:52 PM   #145
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Thanks Eric.

I see one possible explanation buried in the procedures:
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Here is Goodyear's from page 13 of the Tire Guide pdf:
Storing your vehicle properly helps protect your tires.
...
• Unload your vehicle so that minimum weight is on the tires.
• Inflate your tires to recommended operation pressure plus 25%, but don’t exceed the rim manufacturer’s inflation capacity.
...
• Move your vehicle at least every three months to help prevent cracking and flat-spotting, but avoid moving it during extremely cold weather.
• Place your vehicle on blocks to remove the weight from the tires. If the vehicle can’t be put on blocks, make sure the storage surface is firm, clean, well-drained and reasonably level.


And Carlisle from page 94 of their catalog:

...
– During extended storage, use a thin piece of wood or other surface
barrier under tires to extend tire life. For seasonal or extreme long term storage, elevate the trailer on blocks to take the weight off the tires. Reduce the air pressure and cover the tires to protect them from direct sunlight.
....
.
Perhaps Goodyear is assuming that significant load will be on the tires (the entire weight of the empty trailer, because up on blocks is not required), and the increased pressure is to reduce flat-spotting. Carlisle, on the other hand, may be assuming that the trailer is up on blocks so the trailers are not carrying any load.

Also, Goodyear advises (in other documents) to use the correct inflation pressure for the load, so it is likely that the tires could be inflated more and still be within their limits. Carlisle, in contrast, says to inflate all of their trailer tires to their maximum, so increased inflation would not be possible.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:57 PM   #146
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From what I've read, I'll not likely replace my tires with Carlisle since they have so little faith in their product ( – Replace trailer tires every three to five years. ).
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Old 10-09-2014, 07:11 PM   #147
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I just got new shoes put on my F-350 (that was painful, even on a 4 for 3 sale). I talked to the manager there about replacing my trailer tires next spring, which will be 6 years. He asked if there they were in good shape, and have lots of tread left. I said for suer, not even a flat in that time. He said he would run them at least another year, and ascertain their condition then. When I asked him about the manufacture suggesting 5-6 years max, dependant upon condition, his eyes rolled to the back of his head. He just said, of course they will tell you that, they want to sell you more tires. He went on to mention a few other things they deal with that have the same issue, like struts being changed every 80k km.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:45 PM   #148
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Glenn, I don't think it is necessarily an indication of quality of the Carlisle, more an indication of their marketing division and probably their insurance company, (But then I'm the guy who had the 4 year old garaged, jacked up in the winter, correctly inflated, not overloaded Goodyear explode on me) I've said this before, but I cannot understand given modern materials and our growing understanding of how to make things better, why trailer tires and wheel bearing seem to act like they were made in the 1940s.
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Old 10-09-2014, 10:07 PM   #149
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I suspect that some exec in marketing told the new kid to write the tire care info and the kid, of course, Googled "tire maintenance" and then copied and pasted.
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Hey - you wouldn't expect him to actually do any research would you??
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