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Old 08-15-2014, 12:41 PM   #71
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Good information. With the earlier theme of valve stems, did that have anything to do with it? Not sure there is enough tire left to make a determination but it appears the valve stem hole is empty.

How about the rim? Is that salvageable?
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As you say there is nothing left of the valve stem, but my guess is that even if it went, this is not a typical way the tire would be destroyed from that going. We had stopped probably 30-45 minutes before the failure for lunch and my normal tire kick check of both tires sounded as they always to. (Mary says maybe I kicked it too hard ) Again, my guess is that the stem got destroyed by all that flailing rubber. But I am surely no tire expert - would take someone with much more knowledge then me to make a real determination. The way it failed does seems to closely match descriptions I have found in the web about the Marathon sidewall failure. It reminds me of the old days of retreads doing something quite like this.

Rim is hard to tell yet with all the melted rubber. But if I move to 215 tires I will need to replace them with 6" wide one anyway.
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Old 08-15-2014, 01:01 PM   #72
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I remember reading about all the Marathon tire issues on the Casita forum. It actually got depressing after awhile. I will say it does not appear as great a problem on this forum, the Marathon tires, not the depression. I recall it was not limited to Casita's, as other models of trailers also experienced problems.

You are just passing your fourth anniversary with the tires, I believe the current recommendation is replacing between 5 and 7 years depending on how much hot weather driving you do. You were going to face new tires anyway, you just need a better way to get notified. Glad to hear how the trailer and tow handled the failure.
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Old 08-15-2014, 01:35 PM   #73
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I can now confirm that the much reported sidewall blowout problem with Marathons appeared on our 2010 17B.
Thanks for the report!

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The trailer did not swerve at all and I easily immediately pulled over to the shoulder...
I see that this is another confirmation that tandem axles are not needed to handle tire failures.

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So, my current plan is to go with new Carlisle Radial Trail RH slightly larger ST215/75R14 rather than the stock 205's.
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I will also need to replace the rims with 6" width rather than the stock 5.5"
While the wheel width change would be suitable, I don't see it as needed. The allowed rim width for Goodyear Marathon ST215/75R14 is 5.5" to 7.0", so the original wheels would still be within the allowed range.

If you are changing wheels you could go wider for better stability (especially on a single-axle), so 6.5" might be an even better choice... although there usually isn't much choice in rim width in "trailer wheels", and 14" x 6.5" may not be available. A wider wheel will pull the tire out a bit wider, so clearance does need to be checked (but you're going wider and so need to check anyway).
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Old 08-15-2014, 01:48 PM   #74
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I've emailed Reace to ask him if the 6" rims with the 215's will present any clearance issues in his opinion. I know he is more than a little busy with refridge issues along with all his ordinary busy, but I will report back when I do hear from him.
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That's scary. Would the stock tires be a better choice? We hadn't planned to change it.
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Old 08-15-2014, 02:25 PM   #76
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Eric, sorry to hear about the tire failure, but glad to hear that you and Mary and Blue are all ok. Did the spray-on Bed liner come out of it ok, or will you have to re-apply?
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Eric, sorry to hear about the tire failure, but glad to hear that you and Mary and Blue are all ok. Did the spray-on Bed liner come out of it ok, or will you have to re-apply?
Leon -Thanks. From the quick look I have had at it, the spray on liner seems to have survived amazingly well. There is some melted rubber stuck into it. I will have to inspect it more, and may decide to give it another coat.
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Old 08-15-2014, 02:32 PM   #78
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That's scary. Would the stock tires be a better choice? We hadn't planned to change it.
I think that Reace now uses 15" on the 17's so they should have loads of extra capacity if that is the case.
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Old 08-15-2014, 02:47 PM   #79
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we got 15s on our 17, but it was an extra charge then. Not sure if that is still the case. It would make sense for ETI to move to a single tire size, just to simplify the inventory.

By the way, when we were doing the build sheet for the Skylark, I asked if it was possible to get Marathon tires. I know at least one other forum member paid $50.00 additional per tire to get them. But ETI no longer has any Marathon's in stock, so everyone gets Carlisle tires.
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As I stated much earlier, when our 17' Casita was going through tires of off name, I took two wheels to the store and bought two name brand LT tires and the problem went away. I also have been using good name LT tires for 20 years on a smaller single axle car/motorcycle trailer and I have only changed them for age. I also check pressure and hub temps frequently. Our Marathons on the 19 and now the 21 have been very good to us for many miles, although a tandem axle will allow me to reach the next off ramp if I have a tire problem.
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