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Old 03-12-2013, 09:27 AM   #61
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Another thought, according to Brian, if the tongue is up, the weight is shifted back. The trailer is not parallel to the ground. If Baglo's driveway slopes down so that his tongue is up to be level, then you have the same effect?
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:29 AM   #62
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Maybe the axis of the wheel and frame and ground all need to be the same, which they are not!
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:38 AM   #63
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Another thought, according to Brian, if the tongue is up, the weight is shifted back. The trailer is not parallel to the ground. If Baglo's driveway slopes down so that his tongue is up to be level, then you have the same effect?
The shift is due to the tongue being up relative to the rest of the trailer. Glenn (gbaglo) has the tongue level with the trailer (with the assistance of his ammo box, but any combination of scale and stuff would work) so it is parallel to the horizon (it's horizontal, regardless of whether or not the ground is) and he has no problem.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:47 AM   #64
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I've never weighed a trailer or a hitch weight but I now have 53 variations to consider before i go anywhere.
So use level ground and eliminate most of the complication. Measure the height at the very front (the coupler) before unhitching, measure the weight at the coupler (not some other point that needs calculations) at that same height and don't worry about if the trailer is level, because you will have measured the weight the tongue actually puts on the hitch.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:17 AM   #65
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I think we are beginning to over complicate things here. baglo, I blame you because for having a sloped driveway.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:46 PM   #66
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Well, I thank you, because it is pouring rain here and I don't want to go outside to set up and photo it.
Although, I still might if there is a pause in the downpour.
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A bit more to chew on: when Reace installed the WDH, he first measured from the coupler to the ground, without the hitch on the ball. Then lowered the hitch onto the ball. Hitch went down by two inches. Then he set up the WDH so that when it was employed, the coupler was at the same height as it had been without the trailer.
And, the result on level ground, was a level trailer.
So, I assume, that I can assume that if the trailer is level when I weigh the tongue, that it will still be level and weigh the same when the WDH is deployed.
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The whole aim of the hitch set-up is to be as level as possible. If you think of the truck, hitch and trailer when set up properly, properly means that they are all on a line parallel to the ground.

If you then move the tongue up or move it down, your tongue weight will be way off from parallel. That's parallel to the ground.

If you are on a slope and you level the trailer, where is the tongue in relation to the ground? It is not parallel to the ground. The reading would be way off.
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Old 03-12-2013, 03:35 PM   #69
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If you are on a slope and you level the trailer, where is the tongue in relation to the ground? It is not parallel to the ground. The reading would be way off.
It's not parallel to the driveway, but it is parallel to the street.
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Hi Baglo, looks you once owned a 105 PAC HOW or something similar!. I spent quite a while through the night using my grand daughters mini wooden train engine as a trailer and I tend to agree with you. If the rear of the trailer is grounded then the other arguments appear to be correct, however there doesn't appear to be any weight transfer in your (Our) case. Like you i think I have too much time on my hands and should unretire myself. If you have more photos to take it just stopped raining. Reace can you jump in and put us all on the right page? Cheers, Richard
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