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Old 05-11-2015, 12:14 PM   #21
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We've been pulling our 21 around with our 4.0L 5-speed AT Nissan Frontier and are very happy with the experience (we use an Anderson hitch). No sway. Highest mountain passes so far only 4500 ft, max 7% grades -- never slowed below 50 unless the road or traffic warranted it. We have no other need (or desire) for a full-size truck so for us, it was the right choice.

If we were going to do a lot of driving in the high Rockies, we might (but only might) want more power. I think we'd still choose the Frontier -- if we have to go slower uphill once in a while, we can enjoy the scenery a little more.

Good point above about GVWR and other ratings -- that is where we have to be careful. With two not-tiny humans and two medium dogs and their drive-time needs, plus tongue weight, we are close to GVWR. We limit what we carry in the truck bed to lightweight items, and we load Toto (the trailer) and his front storage box appropriately to manage tongue weight, and it all works fine. If I were driving solo I would have a generous cushion.

I like the suggestion to drive with your Taco and see how it goes. 19 or 21, either way, will surely be a hoot.
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Old 05-11-2015, 04:03 PM   #22
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We tow an Escape 21 with a VW Touareg TDI. It has a 3.0L diesel engine with 8-speed automatic transmission; 240 hp and 406 lb-ft of torque. There are four of us in the vehicle, but little else, preferring to keep the weight in the trailer. Towing capacity is 3,500 kg (7,716 lbs).

We typically drive at or a hair above the speed limit (well, except in Utah, 85 mph towing a trailer didn't seem sensible, I kept it about 75 mph). We've never noticed any difficulties towing through mountains.

Rated fuel economy is 12 L/100km city and 8.1 L/100km highway (19/29 mpg) and I'd say this is pretty typical for us to achieve, even with my lead-footed tendencies. While towing, we've done as well as 13 L/100km (18 mpg) and as poor as 16 L/100km (14.7 mpg).

We're very happy with the performance of our tow vehicle and have no reason to consider a more capable unit. I imagine the EcoDiesel experience would be pretty much the same as our experience as the engines have very similar specifications.

With all of that said, I'm quite certain you're Tacoma is more than up for the task of towing an Escape quite capably. As others have suggested, start there and see how it goes.
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Old 05-11-2015, 04:06 PM   #23
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I suggest that you check the rear suspension of your Tacoma. Some models come with 3 leaf springs and others with 4 leafs (3 leafs and an overload leaf). If yours has 3 leaf springs, there is a Toyota TSB to have the 4 leaf package installed by the dealer.
I would also recommend that you install a transmission temp gauge (Scanguage or UltraGauge).
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Old 05-11-2015, 05:04 PM   #24
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We tow an Escape 21 with a VW Touareg TDI.

.....While towing, we've done as well as 13 L/100km (18 mpg) and as poor as 16 L/100km (14.7 mpg).
That is SUPERB towing mileage, especially considering your speed. I wouldn't change your TV either.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:33 PM   #25
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Thank you so much Mike... It's nice to know. I bought it, because my research indicated it would pull a 21' or less light weight trailer, but it's always nice to have that confirmed by people out there in the real world.. All of the specs said yes, just curious what others had to say.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:35 PM   #26
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Thanks for the feedback Tom and Linda..
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:37 PM   #27
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Thank you for the reply Bpjod... I appreciate you taking the time to respond..
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Old 05-12-2015, 01:05 AM   #28
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Let me offer my thoughts on your tow vehicle. Our 4Runner is somewhat similar to your Toyota, and having towed through mountains of New Mexico and Colorado the last few days I have concluded the vehicle can do it, but you have to manage your expectations. On some of the steepest grades I have had to gear down to first gear a few times, both up and down hill. I also tend to hold speeds to 55. If you want something to blast up and down every hill you get to, a six cylinder gas engine isn't enough. I plan to try everything I get to, but with caution and patience---retired, you know.
Are you towing with a WDH? Just wondering.
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:32 AM   #29
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Are you towing with a WDH? Just wondering.
Yes. I got an Andersen after two others towing 21s recommended it --especially one 21 owner with a 2014 4Runner tried it without and got one.
I removed my factory Weight Carrying Receiver for a more capable Weight Distributing Receiver that bolts to the frame rails.
Also added a Scangauge II to monitor trans temps, a trans cooler, and a Tekonsha brake controller.
All functioning well, so far. We've been over a few 9,000 foot passes, going for higher today near Silverton, Colorado.
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Old 05-12-2015, 05:25 PM   #30
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Tacoma towing bible https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/...ng-bible.4031/


Larger Transmission cooler https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/...am-pic.324202/


Firestone Ride Rite Air Bags for reducing bounce even with an Andersen hitch https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/...7#post-9320901


Scangauge will monitor temps and such https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/...ngauge.287255/


I tow a 19' with a 2011 4x4 Dbl Cab v6 Tacoma no worries going through short grade hills and such , I will do a better test to of hill towing in August of this year going to Maine. I use a Prodigy 2 brake controller and it all works well together.


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