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Old 03-27-2014, 03:34 PM   #101
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19 tow vehicle

I picked up my 2011 Jeep GC V-8 from the dealer this morning,$1300 lighter. I had the complete 60,000 mile service done, all liquids changed except radiator, 16 new spark plugs, fuel system cleaned with new filters, trans pan dropped to change oil and new filters, a new computer update and more. I had received an offer to trade in last week, $20,000 and I could have had a new one like mine, since I still have 40,000 miles on the chrysler extended warranty I went with the $1300 choice but in another two years or so I will have to look around and I might consider the diesel if I read good things about the engine and the new 8 speed trans. Let us know how it goes. As everyone knows I am happy with mine and when I can get up to 23 mpg at 70 to 75 when not towing and 15 to 16 towing it is hard to take a $17000 loss for 60,000 miles.
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Old 03-27-2014, 05:08 PM   #102
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Actually $44K for a limited with tow package = 3% below invoice.
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Old 03-27-2014, 05:30 PM   #103
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I toyed with the idea of "upgrading" my 2009 Ram 1500 Hemi to the newer Ram 3.0 diesel. I only have 14,000 miles on the Ram and it has a lifetime power train warranty. I get 12 mpg towing and 12 mpg not towing. The diesel should give me a 50% increase in efficiency to about 18 mpg towing. That said with an average of 5000 miles per year towing means a savings of 150 gallons of fuel @ approximately $4/gallon only $600 fuel savings. Cost to upgrade, about
$10,000 or 16 years of fuel cost. Even doubling that to 10,000 miles/year means a 8 year pay back.
I'm going to die with that truck….
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Old 03-27-2014, 06:03 PM   #104
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Except the tow rating for the 6 cylinder Outbacks, at least the 05-09 models is 3000lbs. (Same model in Europe is rated more like 3600lbs) The 200lb hitch rating is for the factory option hitch. There are better hitches (that are cheaper too) with higher ratings for that model. Like the Reese I pointed to in an earlier post.
I'm a little late to this thread, but we owned a 2005 Outback, 6 cyl 3.0 liter engine. We pulled a 13' Scamp with it like it wasn't even there. Then we bought a 16' Casita and installed a nice Class III hitch. The 200 pound tongue weight was a concern. I thought I would be able to get the tongue weight down to that, knowing I'd be getting a little light for proper handling. I was doing all kinds of weight and balance calculations, just like for airplanes, starting with measured weights for an empty trailer and weighing every single item as I packed it and calculating moments. And then I pulled onto the scales. Modestly loaded for camping, I was exceeding the read axle limit of the car by 105 pounds. There was just no way I was going to be able to redistribute the weight of the rig and have a safe handling setup. The local dealer wouldn't even discuss weight distribution hitches, so I called the factory reps. They wouldn't go there either. We've been enjoying our Highlander ever since, and already had great tow vehicle ready when we ordered our Escape 19.
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:03 AM   #105
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When we bought our 19 in 2010 we felt we needed more than our Honda Ridgeline, did not want to go back to the full size pickup so we went with the Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Dodge hemi engine. We now tow the 21 with it and could not be more satisfied. It is not complicated in the drivers seat as the BMW and a lot cheaper than the Porsche or Mercedes SUV even though it has the under carriage designed by Mercedes when they owned Chrysler/jeep. We have the nice ride, short turn radius, and all of the power and good gas mileage. After 60,000 miles, half towing, the upkeep has been minimal although a 30,000 mile spark plug change cost $260 at the dealer because of 16 plugs and a couple of hours work. I'm getting too old to reach over a fender to do that work. This is my first Jeep and I may replace it with another when the time comes. Mine is a 2011 model and the new ones probably are a little different even though they look the same.
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Are you using any kind of equalizer hitch with your JGC + Escape 21 combo?
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:24 AM   #106
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towing a 21

I'm using the Anderson WDH for the jeep GC. The allowable tongue weight is ok but the sway or bumps are taken much better with the hitch. I've been known to get out and make a change on the tension during a tow due to weight or wind and I "think" it makes a difference.
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Old 04-10-2014, 09:15 AM   #107
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Although it is not needed, I like to tow with the Andersen and my truck, particularly on longer out of state trips, for the reasons mentioned. With the FJ it is definitely needed.
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Old 04-10-2014, 09:41 AM   #108
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Thanks for the feedback guys - I also intend to get the Anderson.
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:02 PM   #109
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We have a 19 purchased last year. We have been towing it with a 2006 V6 Rav 4 sport with towing package. On the flat it tows well but on long steep hills even at 3-3500 RPM slows down to 60KPH. We could live with that as we are not in a big hurry. The worrisome part is that the front end of the Rav seems light when towing as if the trailer is lifting it off the road a bit. I still have steerage but it does move around on the road more than it does when we are not towing.

We are considering upgrading to the Tacoma V6 or new highlander. Any comments would be appreciated.
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:10 PM   #110
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Hi Doug
Since my original post I have been doing more research for a tow vehicle for an Escape 19. We wish an SUV and Consumer Reports recommends the Hyundai Santa Fe XL, the Toyota Highlander, and the Mercedes ML350. They all have a towing capacity of 5000 lbs or higher. I suspect we may replace our 10 year old Highlander with another. It is more car than we need but it will be reliable and up to the task. The new 2015 Honda Pilot arrives this fall and it too could be an excellent candidate for us. If a pickup was an option for us, I would go with the Tacoma V6.
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