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Old 11-08-2015, 04:28 PM   #81
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WITH THE 5'2" BED THIS 2WD XLT FITS IN OUR GARAGE. IT'LL BE USED FOR A GOOSENECK. TOO MANY TOWING ADVANTAGES TO LIST HERE BUT DON'T OVERLOOK THIS ONE WHEN TV SHOPPING. GMC CANYON HAS A QUIET DIESEL FOR 2016.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:59 PM   #82
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Rbryan4: just curious what size trailer you tow, what type of vehicle you tow it with, and what your mpg is under tow. I pick up my 17b in three months, and need to get a tow vehicle by then. Have been thinking about a pre-2013 V6 RAV 4. Thanks.
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Old 11-23-2015, 08:09 PM   #83
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Rbryan4: just curious what size trailer you tow, what type of vehicle you tow it with, and what your mpg is under tow. I pick up my 17b in three months, and need to get a tow vehicle by then. Have been thinking about a pre-2013 V6 RAV 4. Thanks.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:40 AM   #84
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I pick up my 17b in three months, and need to get a tow vehicle by then. Have been thinking about a pre-2013 V6 RAV 4. Thanks.
I can't speak for a RAV4 but towing a 17B my 2012 4Runner averaged 15.3 mpg for the last 3,913 miles. Granted, this has all been west coast driving with no mountains to climb and I drive between 55-60 mph.
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Old 11-24-2015, 07:36 AM   #85
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I can't speak for a RAV4 but towing a 17B my 2012 4Runner averaged 15.3 mpg for the last 3,913 miles. Granted, this has all been west coast driving with no mountains to climb and I drive between 55-60 mph.
That mpg while under tow (15.3) is about as good as it gets from what I observe in this forum, and gives me another alternative as a tow vehicle for my 17b. Thanks!
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Old 11-29-2015, 11:28 AM   #86
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Prior to getting the 2015 GMC Canyon XLT for the Scamp 19, we towed our Casita 17 effortlessly with Hyundai Santa Fe LS. This is the 3.3ltr 265 hp direct injection 6 cyl with 6 speed trans.
This has a trans cooler and 7 pin and hitch mount fixture from the factory. The 350# tongue weight was easily managed. Loads of cargo space for traveling, XM radio, power everything, and 100k mile warranty. Electric brake mount was a snap.
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Old 11-29-2015, 11:42 AM   #87
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My buddy used to tow his 19 with a Hyundai Santa Fe.
It spent a whole summer in the shop waiting for engine parts. Dealer finally equipped a service vehicle with hitch so he could go camping.
He has since replaced it with a Highlander.
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Old 11-29-2015, 11:57 AM   #88
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Prior to getting the 2015 GMC Canyon XLT for the Scamp 19, we towed our Casita 17 effortlessly with Hyundai Santa Fe LS. This is the 3.3ltr 265 hp direct injection 6 cyl with 6 speed trans.
This has a trans cooler and 7 pin and hitch mount fixture from the factory. The 350# tongue weight was easily managed. Loads of cargo space for traveling, XM radio, power everything, and 100k mile warranty. Electric brake mount was a snap.
Since the average tongue weight of a Casita 17 is 422 lbs (you can do sorts by brand & size at my Excel version of Frederick's "Trailer Weights in the Real World" list) you would have to do some careful packing to get it down to 350 lbs.
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Old 11-29-2015, 12:11 PM   #89
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Yes, the Sport version and the 4 cyl turbo are definitely not for towing. The 2014 GLS was my choice for 5000 lb tow package. Never had an issue with tongue weight as I put most of the load at/aft of the axle.
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Old 11-29-2015, 03:26 PM   #90
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We towed a 17' EggCamper with a Chevy S-10, V-6 (4.6L) which had a tow rating of 5600 lbs. - much more than needed for the lightweight EggCamper; but the S-10 only had a four-speed transmission. Going us any hill forced a downshift to third gear and then we had to slow WAY down. When we decided to upgrade, (2011), the Tacoma only had a five-speed transmission and the Tundra had a six-speed. At the time, big trucks were not popular and we got the Tundra for about the same price that a Tacoma would have been, although the Tundra had a higher list price. Anyway, we got the little 4.6L engine with a tow rating of "only" 8200 lbs. and with the six-speed transmission, have been very happy with the results. If the new Tacoma has a six-speed transmission I wouldn't hesitate to go with it because the big Tundra is a bit awkward to drive in cities.

The big Tundra is much more comfortable than our little S-10 was and after a full day of driving we are much more rested than we used to be. I don't know how comfortable the new Tacoma is, but I imagine it's better than our old S-10 was. BTW, the new Colorado has a "much worse than average" repair record, according to the Consumer Reports readers, and the Tundra has the best repair record of any truck.
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Old 11-29-2015, 04:02 PM   #91
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Here are the Consumer Reports repair records for trucks for 2015. Please note that this is ONLY for the totally objective repair records and not for the more subjective test drive opinions of the magazine testers. The Tacoma, being new, did not have enough respondents to list its repair record.
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Old 11-29-2015, 09:41 PM   #92
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Well dang- no Tacoma- no responses. Canceled CR over 20 years ago; lost me with objectivity(have owned 7 Toyotas-still have an '01 Avalon). In this digital world it's tough to be relevant enough for people to pay for a subscription.
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Old 11-29-2015, 09:43 PM   #93
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We started with a Toyota Tacoma TRD Double Cab and our Escape 19 which worked good, averaged about 14.5 - 15 MPG. Then we bought a GMC Sierra with the 5.3 and 6 speed transmission which we averaged about 15.5 - 16 MPG. We then upgraded our 19 to a 5.0TA which we pulled with the Sierra and found our MPG dropped to about 15 at best. Then we bought a new Sierra 1500 with the 6.2 (420 HP and 460 LBS of torque) and 8 speed transmission, this truck also has the NHT package with the 3.42 gears and with this we average 17 - 17.5 MPG. These averages were calculated driving to and from the same places. We noticed the 6.2 hauled better on the flats and through the mountains no question.

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Old 11-29-2015, 10:03 PM   #94
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But supposedly your tranny might fall out the back & ding your TA looking at that long black mark CR posted. Seriously though, that has to be a record for 5.O TA mileage. 8-speed for GM; who knew?
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Old 11-29-2015, 11:56 PM   #95
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BTW, the new Colorado has a "much worse than average" repair record, according to the Consumer Reports readers...
Does the record of anecdotes from CR readers from less than a year of history mean much?

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Here are the Consumer Reports repair records for trucks for 2015. Please note that this is ONLY for the totally objective repair records and not for the more subjective test drive opinions of the magazine testers. The Tacoma, being new, did not have enough respondents to list its repair record.
Is the Colorado/Canyon record based on that same one year of reports? While a bunch of problems in the first year isn't good, I don't think it says much about long-term reliability.

What does the asterisk on several of the trucks mean?
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Old 11-30-2015, 12:07 AM   #96
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Then we bought a new Sierra 1500 with the 6.2 (420 HP and 460 LBS of torque) and 8 speed transmission...
Interesting trivia for gearheads: this 8L90 is the same transmission as used in the Corvette... and nearly the same engine as the Corvette as well.

No, you're not supposed to tow with the 'Vette.
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I gave up on CR many years ago when they said the Corvette lacked luggage space and couldn't accommodate a family of four comfortably.
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Old 11-30-2015, 01:03 AM   #98
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I, too, gave up on CR many years ago... but when they:
  • condemned the Omni/Horizon, not for abysmal quality, but because it you turned the steering wheel a quarter turn then let go, the vehicle didn't settle in a straight line (a truly ridiculous handling test), and
  • declared after testing the original Jeep Cherokee with the 4-cylinder that their readers should buy the V6 which they assumed would be more powerful and better... even though they never tested the V6, and that GM-sourced piece of junk was actually no more powerful and proved unreliable.

There is no automotive expertise at Consumer Reports. I bet they know toasters, though.
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Yes, I often don't care much for the subjective opinions of the CR reviewers; that is the reason I only posted the repair records. The repair record reports are the results of "...a comprehensive survey of owners of 740,000 vehicles. The survey asked detailed questions about 17 trouble areas covering all of a car's substantial components and systems." (Anything but anecdotal evidence.)

BTW, the asterisk indicates that the model was brand new or redesigned, and "...predictions may be based on a single model year's data..."
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But supposedly your tranny might fall out the back & ding your TA looking at that long black mark CR posted. Seriously though, that has to be a record for 5.O TA mileage. 8-speed for GM; who knew?

Nope that was my Toyota, front end fell out too. New Toyotas weren't built like the old ones I had. 6 - 7 months of the year in and out of 4 wheel drive by the 4th year it fell apart. Love the Sierra though.

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