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Old 12-20-2014, 10:56 PM   #91
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Old 12-22-2014, 08:34 AM   #92
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Just get one of these and you will have no issues....
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:53 PM   #93
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Aw Jim, that's still just a pickup... serious RVers use one one these, which are actually quite common for fifth-wheels (I see them in RV parks and one the road):
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If you are thinking you need one of these for any Escape (especially a 17), please give your head a shake!
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Old 12-23-2014, 01:35 AM   #94
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Well , if you can pull a 21 with a v 6 then pulling a 17 with a Honda civic should be no problem , no head shake needed !
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I have seen these! Aren't these beasts measure fuel economy in gpm instead of mpg?
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Old 12-23-2014, 02:00 AM   #96
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Depends.

Now where did I put them??
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:23 AM   #97
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Well , if you can pull a 21 with a v 6 then pulling a 17 with a Honda civic should be no problem , no head shake needed !
Sure it can. But the back of the vehicle comes undone due to the lateral towing loads. Just don't go around curves, I guess.
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Old 12-23-2014, 01:47 PM   #98
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I have seen these! Aren't these beasts measure fuel economy in gpm instead of mpg?
Terrible by Escape-towing standards, but no worse than ordinary pickup trucks pulling the same big trailer, because the trailer determines the air drag and accounts for most of the weight, and the Freightliner is working at the load for which it is designed. Which is not an Escape.
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Old 12-23-2014, 01:55 PM   #99
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Well , if you can pull a 21 with a v 6 then pulling a 17 with a Honda civic should be no problem , no head shake needed !
Not quite, because tug size difference doesn't match the trailer load difference - a typical V6 tug has perhaps twice the sustained power output capability of a Civic, but the 17 needs more than half the pull of the 21. Plus, as Don pointed out, towing about a lot more than the engine. Again, counting cylinders doesn't work, but looking at actual capabilities and ratings does.

The silly big Freightliners are six-cylinders with less power than a typical full-sized pickup, by the way...
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