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Old 01-05-2015, 08:03 PM   #111
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Old 01-05-2015, 09:49 PM   #112
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Whoops, it was a PDF but I attached from the "Add Video" button.Hoping it works this time.TOW VEHICLES.pdf
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You don't list tongue weights.
So, for instance, you have the Subaru Outback as having up to 3,999 tow capacity ( and I believe that is wrong ), but you don't have the tongue weight capacity, which is 200 lbs. Outback shouldn't be towing more than 2,000 lbs if a proper tongue weight of 200 is applied.
You need tow capacity and tongue weight capacity for all.
You have no weights for the RAV4. Might as well leave it out since your list is mostly 2014 and 2015.

I'd double check all your numbers before posting a final version.
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:43 AM   #114
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As of this moment, am learning towards the Nissan Xterra (thx rbryan).
We are very happy towing our 17B with our 2008 Xterra. It's been a reliable vehicle - 85K miles needing only tires, wiper blades, oil changes and new gas struts for the rear hatch. Mileage is only 20-22 mpg on the highway and mid-teens in town, however. Highway towing is 16 mpg at best, lower with headwinds and mountainous terrain.

The 5000 lb. towing capacity and 500 lb. hitch weight are more than adequate for a 17B, and we also use a weight distributing hitch (Andersen). The hitch helps keep the Xterra level, which also stops our headlights from shining in other driver's eyes (we discovered this on a trip when I had under-tightened the hitch bolts). With a 4-liter V-6 I hardly notice the trailer during level towing, although we slow down a bit on mountain passes.

We have the factory towing package, which meant a simple plug-in install for the brake controller (I used industrial-strength Velcro to fasten the controller to the dash). I'm not sure, but the towing package may also include a better transmission cooler/radiator. We use extension mirrors for towing which helps us see behind the trailer.

You probably don't need our "Off-Road" version (bigger tires, skid plates, etc. - I think Nissan calls it the "Pro" version now), but 4WD comes in handy on snowy roads and towing up steep gravelly hills.

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Old 01-06-2015, 01:20 AM   #115
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Hello All and especially EDarby,
I down loaded your spredsheet on tow vehicles. Thank you. I must point out another error (sorry). I have an '98 Cherokee Sport for my tow vehicle ... my manual says that it has a 5000# tow capacity with a 500 lb tongue weight max ..... unless I have a weight distributing hitch which brings up the max tow weight to 6000 lbs and max tongue weight to 600 lbs. It has a 4 Liter in line 6 and auto tranny. My mileage (without trailer) averages about 18 mpg. I just installed a hitch and have no idea what the mileage will be then ... probably not brag able. Hopefully gas will stay down to $2.00 per gallon .... yeah right!


Thank you for all your work.


You listed a 2014 Cherokee with a max tow weight of 2000 lbs ... I'd doubt that unless it had a 3 cly. engine.
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The info was gathered from many places--actually some does not jive with what I've found from other i-net locations. For example, the RAV4, which I had been learning toward, showed less than the 3500#, even for the 2009-2012 models. Ex: 2012 RAV4, when googled, shows towing capacity of 1,500 to 2,000 lbs.
A Google search will find many references to information, most of which are not reliable. If you're willing to take the time, you can now download owner's manuals for most vehicles from their manufacturers' websites... and that is the only reliable source. Check the 2012 RAV4 manual, for instance, and I'll think you'll find a clear statement of the 3500 pound limit (when properly equipped) which Baglo mentioned.
Toyota Online Owners Manuals and Warranty

Online listings of towing capacity are notoriously incomplete and incorrect.
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:34 AM   #117
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I had considered a used Nissan Pathfinder, 2012, 2013, but after reading several customer reviews I decided against it. The negative mentioned most was problems their 8 speed transmission.
I believe that the generation of Pathfinder which started in 2012 (and is unrelated except in name to previous generations of Pathfinder) comes with only one transmission, which is a CVT (continuously variable transmission), not an 8-speed. Yes, the CVT would be a reliability concern if overloaded or not properly maintained.
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:34 AM   #118
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The problem with doing a spread sheet like this is there are many manufacturers with many models and many trim levels and options.
Information on the web is often not specific about what exact model is being discussed ( and what trim level ).
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:26 PM   #119
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I would like to suggest the following as a fairly accurate alternative to manufacturer's data sheets and manuals.


Trailer Towing Guides | Trailer Life Magazine


follow the link, then download the PDF for your year of interest.
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Thank you all for the great information. Thanks also for pointing out the errors!
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