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Old 01-07-2015, 12:38 PM   #121
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I would like to suggest the following as a fairly accurate alternative to manufacturer's data sheets and manuals.


Trailer Towing Guides | Trailer Life Magazine


follow the link, then download the PDF for your year of interest.
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Old 01-08-2015, 03:28 PM   #122
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I would like to suggest the following as a fairly accurate alternative to manufacturer's data sheets and manuals.


Trailer Towing Guides | Trailer Life Magazine
That one is perhaps the most commonly referenced, it's certainly useful, and most of the information is not bad... but it is also the same list that I have used in the past as an example of how poor these lists are. The emphasis is on larger trailers, and tugs suitable for (as an example) an Escape 17B can be completely omitted or listed incorrectly.

For instance, in the listing for the year of my Toyota van, the van is listed correctly, but the Highlander is wrong.

The annual approach is also annoying, since it seems to me that someone buying a used vehicle is likely far more interested in a specific model or tug or a specific minimum towing capacity than in a specific year.

I would consider this list useful for finding potential tugs, but would not believe any data without verifying it... and that includes not eliminating any model just because this list shows it with too low a towing limit.
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Excellent advice and I will absolutely take it. Thank you!
Knowing there are errors on these lists makes me feel a bit better about the screw-ups I made on mine!
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That one is perhaps the most commonly referenced, it's certainly useful, and most of the information is not bad... but it is also the same list that I have used in the past as an example of how poor these lists are. The emphasis is on larger trailers, and tugs suitable for (as an example) an Escape 17B can be completely omitted or listed incorrectly.

For instance, in the listing for the year of my Toyota van, the van is listed correctly, but the Highlander is wrong.

The annual approach is also annoying, since it seems to me that someone buying a used vehicle is likely far more interested in a specific model or tug or a specific minimum towing capacity than in a specific year.

I would consider this list useful for finding potential tugs, but would not believe any data without verifying it... and that includes not eliminating any model just because this list shows it with too low a towing limit.
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Old 01-08-2015, 04:20 PM   #124
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Ellen,
Please don't feel bad about posting some inaccurate information on tow vehicles ..... rather I thank you for going to all that effort. Its times like these that awaken the vast store of information as is present on this site. I, for one, have learned alot.

Now, if you would please post a chart describing the best trailer for all of us and include where we should have our trailer take us?
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Old 01-08-2015, 04:30 PM   #125
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Thank you for that, it really DOES make me feel better!!!

Well, now, easy one:
Best trailer: Escape in size of choice, with options of choice (well, ok, maybe not so easy!) But definitely the "Escape" part!

Where trailer should take us: OK, THIS is easy -- follow our hearts . . . and a good GPS! Or a map if it's a bad GPS.

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Ellen,
Please don't feel bad about posting some inaccurate information on tow vehicles ..... rather I thank you for going to all that effort. Its times like these that awaken the vast store of information as is present on this site. I, for one, have learned alot.

Now, if you would please post a chart describing the best trailer for all of us and include where we should have our trailer take us?
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Old 01-08-2015, 06:40 PM   #126
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Well, now, easy one:
Best trailer: Escape in size of choice, with options of choice (well, ok, maybe not so easy!) But definitely the "Escape" part!

Where trailer should take us: OK, THIS is easy -- follow our hearts . . . and a good GPS! Or a map if it's a bad GPS.
Well, Letsee:
Trailer: ESCAPE - check
Size/options: 17 Build sheet done, three times already - check
Maps: 2 inch stack of possibles on back table at work - check
GPS: Wife/Navigator has smartphone w/app. - check

All I need to do is implement! Yeah.
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:12 PM   #127
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You are SO covered!!!
. . . and ready to roll!!!
Must admit--I envy you the completed Build Sheet!
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Well, Letsee:
Trailer: ESCAPE - check
Size/options: 17 Build sheet done, three times already - check
Maps: 2 inch stack of possibles on back table at work - check
GPS: Wife/Navigator has smartphone w/app. - check

All I need to do is implement! Yeah.
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Old 02-01-2015, 04:50 PM   #128
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I've read this thread several times in an attempt to figure out frontal load limits.

Would someone be so helpful as to post this or PM me so I won't feel like a complete idiot!

Want to get the 17b....trying to figure out what to tow it with. Thank you!
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Old 02-01-2015, 04:55 PM   #129
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I believe Glenn Baglo has posted several times his tongue weight on the Escape 17, try him and or here are some numbers Trailer Weights in the Real World - Fiberglass RV
Any tow vehicle rated 350/3500 should be adequate. That said, going with a 500/5000 should allow you extra just in case you get the "2 foot itis" and want a Escape 19 later on.
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Old 02-01-2015, 04:55 PM   #130
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Can you explain what you mean by frontal load limits. Do you mean average tongue weight?
As for what to tow it with, Toyota Hylander, Honda Pilot, Hyundai Santa Fe. Basically anything with 3,500 lb tow / 350 lb tongue limit or more. My 2008 RAV4 works but in 2013 Toyota lowered the tow rating.
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