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Old 02-05-2015, 03:21 PM   #181
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We have a 2011 Honda Ridgeline and just love it. It has so many nice features, ie. 4 door with room for our 100# labradoodle, Radar, after putting a custom made mattress behind the driver's seat. He is comfortable and down low, not up on seat that moves up out of the way;
drives like a sports car, 4x4, awesome hidden, locked trunk compartment under truck bed, tailgate opens up/down or sideways, tow capacity is 5,000 lbs.
We have towed a 19' Kingfisher boat around 3,500 lbs and now tow a 20' Kingfisher hardtop which weighs around 4,000 lbs. I must admit that it towed the lighter boat easier.

Now, we are looking to buy an Escape trailer. We just need to figure out which model would work best for us.

We'll just have to make 2 trips if we decide to take our boat up North Island for our annual offshore fishing trip. There is no way we would trade our Honda for anything else.
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Old 02-05-2015, 03:21 PM   #182
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Get the new Hemi 8 speed, 16-18 towing and 20-22 not towing and you will have a 400 hp truck that gives you that Camaro "rush".
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:25 PM   #183
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....tow capacity is 5,000 lbs.
It will tow a 21, a 19 or a 17. Be aware of your tow vehicle's CARGO capacity however, not just tow capacity.

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We have towed a 19' Kingfisher boat around 3,500 lbs and now tow a 20' Kingfisher hardtop which weighs around 4,000 lbs. I must admit that it towed the lighter boat easier.

Now, we are looking to buy an Escape trailer. We just need to figure out which model would work best for us.
I think you answered your own question. It will tow the 19 easier than it will the 21, and a 17 easier than a 19. Simple matter of weight and size.

I would suggest looking at the various models, and deciding on which is best for your needs and camping style. Since you're committed to your tow vehicle, and the capacities seem adequate for a 17, 19 or 21, go with the model you like best.
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Old 02-05-2015, 05:22 PM   #184
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Thanks for mentioning the cargo capacity. I looked it up and the GCWR is 10,085 - 4,553 curb weight = 5,532 lbs left for people, cargo, and what we tow behind it. The GVWR is 6,050 which I guess means that if the truck is loaded, we can only tow a 4,000 GVWR trailer. This is sounding like the 17 might be more suitable and allow some leeway. We'll need to think carefully about this before we make any decisions.

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Old 02-05-2015, 05:32 PM   #185
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Thanks for mentioning the cargo capacity. I looked it up and the GCWR is 10,085 - 4,553 curb weight = 5,532 lbs left for people, cargo, and what we tow behind it. The GVWR is 6,050 which I guess means that if the truck is loaded, we can only tow a 4,000 GVWR trailer. This is sounding like the 17 might be more suitable and allow some leeway. We'll need to think carefully about this before we make any decisions.

Thanks again.
Yessir. Now you're approaching it from an informed position. The "leeway" is something to have. Although, I don't think you'd have any trouble towing a 19 with a Ridgeline. Some have towed even a 21 with a Ridgeline. This thread is an example:

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Old 02-05-2015, 05:49 PM   #186
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What about the Mazda CX-9? The couple who bought my 17B have one with a factory tow package, although like Baglo had to swap out the 1.5" receiver hitch with an aftermarket 2" for the WDH.

In comparing to the Rav4, Highlander, and Pilot I notice some facts:
(all are 4WD or AWD)

Wheel Base MPG Curb Wt. Tow Cap

Rav4 105 19/26 3699 3500
Highlander 109 17/22 4267 5000
Pilot 109 17/24 4497 4500
CX-9 113 16/22 4546 3500


I rented one on a trip and liked the ride. Looking at used ones near Cleveland on Cars.com I see you can buy one with 20-30K miles with AWD for around $20K. As mentioned previously, finding one with the tow package used is the thing, however it seems like this might be worth considering for a 17B.
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What about the Mazda CX-9? The couple who bought my 17B have one with a factory tow package, although like Baglo had to swap out the 1.5" receiver hitch with an aftermarket 2" for the WDH.

In comparing to the Rav4, Highlander, and Pilot I notice some facts:
(all are 4WD or AWD)

Wheel Base MPG Curb Wt. Tow Cap

Rav4 105 19/26 3699 3500
Highlander 109 17/22 4267 5000
Pilot 109 17/24 4497 4500
CX-9 113 16/22 4546 3500


I rented one on a trip and liked the ride. Looking at used ones near Cleveland on Cars.com I see you can buy one with 20-30K miles with AWD for around $20K. As mentioned previously, finding one with the tow package used is the thing, however it seems like this might be worth considering for a 17B.
I'm a fan of Mazdas, and I own a Mazda, but as a vehicle and not a tow. They generally have a lower towing capacity than similarly sized vehicles from other makes. A CX-9 has 3 rows of seating, and it's marketed in their brochures as a competitor of the Highlander and the Pilot. Yet, the Highlander and Pilot have much higher towing capacities. Also, I dislike it when a manufacturer won't post the GCWR so I can determine if it's suitable as a tow. Try finding the GCWR of a CX-9 and it's like looking for needle in a haystack. That number is important, and an owner can't calculate it. It comes from the manufacturer.
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Old 02-05-2015, 06:47 PM   #188
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What you say is true re Pilot/Highlander, however do you think a RAV4 would be better? The Mazda has the longest wheelbase and curbweight. The OP is asking for TV for 17B so am trying to think out of the box. Also, I understand that cost is important and know Toyotas sell sometimes for more used than new.
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Old 02-05-2015, 06:53 PM   #189
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EDarby, you might want to read a thread over on the FiberglassRV forum before you buy that RAV4.

I too think that you shouldn't write off the Toyota brand due to anecdotal stories. I heard a Tundra testimonial from a rancher in the Chilcotin area of BC back in 2005. I kept seeing Tundra trucks around and asked a rancher how he liked his He said that 80% of the ranchers in the area were driving them, pulled live loads with them and found they went 500,000 km without a major service. I have heard this same claim from others. Consumer Reports gave the truck the best repair record, so I went with it and haven't regretted it. Of course every brand has lemons, but so far our Tundra has been without trouble and is awesome on or off road. The one downside is its fuel economy. That could definitely be better.

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Old 02-05-2015, 06:55 PM   #190
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A new RAV4 is not a contender and pre-2013, suitably equipped, would be very difficult to find.
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