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Old 12-18-2014, 03:05 PM   #31
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I have the 2012 V6 Rav4 and a 17B too

The small gas tank is an issue with me as well.

Other than that i would say as long as you have a good brake controller you will be fine with this combo

It has plenty of power, pulls well and has stopped in a hurry for deer ........

if i ever upgrade to the 19 or 21 i would probably like to have the 4 Runner upgrade though.
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Old 12-18-2014, 03:25 PM   #32
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...if i ever upgrade to the 19 or 21 i would probably like to have the 4 Runner upgrade though.
The 4Runner is a great tow vehicle for any of the Escapes (maybe not the 5.0TA).

However, I would call going to the 19 or 21 from the 17 an "upsize" rather than an "upgrade".
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:37 PM   #33
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The 3010 lbs weighted at the start of my last trip was the trailer alone on a certified scale at our local transfer station, with an accuracy of +/- 10 lbs. The tongue weight subtracts, so the axle weight is 2665; I'm not all that close. I also have the advantage that I travel alone (well, not always an advantage) so I have less weight in the RAV4 itself. Total weight of the RAV4 (loaded + a full tank of gas), me, and the hitch weight was 4400.

As to the idea that everyone with a 17B go out and get a V6 RAV4, I'd only suggest it if you travel the way I do. If you like to keep up with traffic, particularly on the interstates, I suspect you would be happier with a heftier tow vehicle. You do have to do some planning to keep the tongue weight within specifications - the first time I loaded up the trailer (I have a jig & 450 lb bathroom scale for measuring tongue weight) I was at 375 lbs. Had to move some stuff around to reach 345 lbs.

I strongly suggest knowing your actual weights (trailer & tongue) since they are so dependent on each individual's stuff & packing scheme.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:41 PM   #34
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Excellent advice Jon. The driver is an important variable too. And some of us "vary" more than others...
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:47 PM   #35
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On the freeway I have trouble keeping my RAV4 at 90 kph ( 56 mph ) which is where I get the best fuel economy towing. I've found myself doing 120 kph ( 75 mph ) uphill, in the passing lane.
If I were in the market, which I'm not because I only have 72,000 kilometers ( 45,000 miles ) on the odometer, and if I had money to burn, I'd be looking at a 4Runner or Tacoma, but only so I could feel more manly.
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Old 12-18-2014, 06:25 PM   #36
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I had a RAV4 - V6 with the 17B, and drove a fair distance, I think Jon is right , it depends on the driver. It was OK, but at times I was wishing I had something different - especially longer- the wheelbase of the RAV is the shortest of the vehicles you are considering.in .
I drove a fair amount of miles with it as well.
I would go for something different, the Pilot or Highlander.
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Old 12-18-2014, 08:15 PM   #37
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Good idea Glenn. On our last trip one of the brake wires on the trailer broke unbeknown to me. I found out when I had to do very fast stop from somebody turning in front of me and felt the trailer pull hard to one side. Took me a while and stopping experiments to figure out what was going on. I had to turn up the force on the brake controller until I got home and got it fixed.
Times like that make me wish I had some big ole air horns to scare the .... outta them.
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:07 AM   #38
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I would say that there is a difference between body-on-frame vs unibody in towing that has nothing to do with capacities (although frame based towing capacities are usually higher for similar sized vehicles), and that difference is in the towing experience. For me, towing with a frame based vehicle just feels more confident.
I'm not sure how one would determine that, without comparable vehicles... and it would be surprising for two otherwise comparable vehicles to be built with these different structural designs. For instance, you might try the 4Runner and Highlander - both V6 two-ton Toyota SUVs of the same wheelbase, the first with body-on-frame construction and the second with a unibody. The problem is that if there is a difference in feel (and I'm sure there is), it could be due to the structure... but it could be due to
  • different engines
  • different transmissions
  • different type of front suspension
  • different type of rear suspension (one independent and one not)
  • different steering gear
  • different tire size

I think a significant factor is that in a body-on-frame vehicle the hitch is attached to the frame, so the driver is isolated to some extent from feeling the trailer (by the body-to-frame mounts); that probably makes the driver more confident, but doesn't mean that the body-on-frame vehicle does a better job of controlling the trailer.
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:18 AM   #39
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Times like that make me wish I had some big ole air horns to scare the .... outta them.
These'll work.
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:43 AM   #40
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However, I would call going to the 19 or 21 from the 17 an "upsize" rather than an "upgrade".
That is true it would be an upsize but the newer ones have lots of upgrades from my 2006 model

So far the 17 has been just the right size for us but we are planning longer trips now so maybe an upsize will be needed in a year or two
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