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11-11-2009, 05:50 PM
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Towing 19ft.
Hello,
I'm Gary and this is my first post. I don't own and Escape Yet...But I'm laying plans for my escape. I'm pretty much certain I am going for the 19 ft. My questions is a capable tow vehicle. I'm thinking of either a Jeep Liberty or Ford Ranger. Either would of course be a 6 cyl. with Auto Tranny. Anyone out there have experience with either vehicle and a 19ft. Thanks.
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11-11-2009, 06:48 PM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
Hi Gary, and welcome aboard. I am not familiar with either of those vehicles for a tow, I use an 09 Honda Pilot to tow my 19 and it works great. I think the main thing is to ensure you have a good buffer of towing capacity. I would suggest looking for some with around a 4,500 lb towing capacity and you should be good. There are lots of great vehicles in this range. Dry, it is around 2,600 lbs, but you have to add propane, batteries, and the such to the base weight, then there is the water, food and gear, as well as the weight of gear you might carry in the tow vehicle to think about. My Pilot has a tow capacity of 4,500 lbs and does great, only working exceptionally hard on really steep mountain roads.
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11-11-2009, 07:01 PM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
6-cylinder isn't the problem Gary, but the towing capacity as Jim said. My Nissan Frontier is a 6 cylinder, but tows 6500#. My former '95 Honda Pilot and my '07 Jeep Wrangler are 6's but only have a towing capacity of 3500#! Much too close for a 19! I agree with Jim, don't marginalize your towing capacity, you'll be sorry later if you do.
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11-11-2009, 07:14 PM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
Hi: Garyplais... We tow a 5.0 which has a dry weight of about the same as a 19'er. Our tug is a 4.3 ltr. V6 GMC Sierra P/U. Tow cap. is 6100lbs and the whole rig weighed in at 8900lbs. The only thing I wished for is some more Torque!!! The Tow/Haul tranny is good but... I don't use O/D. only 3rd. gear for towing. I find the older I get the slower I drive. This year our 4000mi. trip averaged 18.5 MPG. Canadian. YMMV
If using a Ranger P/U I'd opt for the 4ltr. Engine. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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11-11-2009, 07:24 PM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
More torque, less gas mileage Alf. I get 13.5mpg, but then I don't drive slower (must not be as old as you I guess : - )). Because of the torque on the Frontier, I'm still doing 65-70mph up mountains with no hesitations or problems, and power to spare. But, that's why I only got 13.5 coming across America. Whenever I get as old as you, maybe I will slow down a little and recheck the gas mileage : - )
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'11 Nissan Frontier Crew Cab (5' bed) 09 Escape 5.0
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11-11-2009, 07:44 PM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
Hi: HokieEscape...Sheesh!!! No wonder I don't like Dentists. They're always "down in the mouth" Old Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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11-11-2009, 07:59 PM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
That's why I very seldom introduce myself as a dentist! NO BODY LIKES US : - (
So, I usually introduce myself as an Oral Ecologist, or as an Oral Wetlands Environmentalist!
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11-12-2009, 02:03 AM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
4 l ford ranger won't do it..
We learnt that the hard way when we were looking for a tow vehicle for our 17'...consequently got the Escape (which I much prefer driving) but it wouldn 't do for a 19".
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11-12-2009, 05:33 AM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
Hi: amirie... Is your Ford Escape the 3ltr. V6 or the 4ltr. V6 The 4ltr. V6 has the highest tow cap. for the Ranger P/U. The 4cyl. Ranger just won't cut it...that I know!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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11-12-2009, 10:46 AM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
I don't have a 19'er but have been looking into it. I towed my current 20' stick built (3200 lbs dry) with an 03 Ranger 4l Auto 4wd. I had to put on air bags as mine was tongue heavy at 700 lbs which should not be a problem with the Escape. It was a bit weak in the hills and in strong head winds meaning it could have used a few more horses, this may or may not be an issue with the Escapes. I was eyeballing one of the Nissan Frontiers if I go with the Escape as they have more power/torque then the current Rangers.
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11-12-2009, 12:19 PM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
We tow our 19 with an 07 Toyota Tacoma with a 4L 6 auto.
It does great, you can always use a few more horses on a good hill
no matter what you drive. But one thing I have found the more you push
the vehicle on a hill the faster the gas gauge goes down, sometimes
80 or 90 km is better.....
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11-23-2009, 10:08 PM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
Woops, I blew it---meant that the 3L V6 Ranger wouldn't do it--of course the 4L would!!!
Blonde moment!!!! Towing capacity for the Ranger was about 2,500 lbs
And our escape is 3.? L V6 towing capacity is 3,500 lbs
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11-23-2009, 10:37 PM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
Hi: amirie... I have similar moments only more frequent!!! They're called senior moments in my case. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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'16 Ram Eco D. 4X4 Laramie Longhorn CC & '14 Escape 5.0TA
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11-23-2009, 11:04 PM
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Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Re: Towing 19ft.
HI - We are planning on towing our 5.0 (we get it in the spring) with our Ranger 4.0L, 5speed AT, 2WD, it is tow rated at 5500lbs and has a GCWR of 9000lbs.
Ken
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11-24-2009, 12:13 AM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
I don't have a 19'er but have been looking into it. I towed my current 20' stick built (3200 lbs dry) with an 03 Ranger 4l Auto 4wd. I had to put on air bags as mine was tongue heavy at 700 lbs which should not be a problem with the Escape. It was a bit weak in the hills and in strong head winds meaning it could have used a few more horses, this may or may not be an issue with the Escapes. I was eyeballing one of the Nissan Frontiers if I go with the Escape as they have more power/torque then the current Rangers.
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If you are looking at the Frontiers, you may want to consider the Titan also. I have the Titan and I only get about 2 mpg less then others I know that drive the V6 Frontier. The interior space and comfort far out exceeds the Frontier and I have a heck of a lot more low end torque with the V8, 315hp and 385 ft-lbs of torque. When I am pull something under 5000 pounds, I don't even know it is behind me unless I am going up a really steep grade.
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12-04-2009, 11:36 AM
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Re: Towing 19ft.
We currently tow our 17" Casita with a 2wd 4.0L Ranger with AT (and airbags) and it has been enough truck. We've not attempted real mountains...but I am sure we would want more horsepower under those circumstances. The Casita weighs about 3,100 lb loaded (with no on-board water). We'll use this truck for our Escape 5.0 when its ready as well.
Dave
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