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Old 11-29-2017, 09:06 AM   #1
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Towing 21 with tacoma

I have read a number of rhe old threads on this and much discussion is on the 5.0ta. Can anyone who has towed the 21 with a Tacoma comment? With the tow package, the trailer weight is well within specs. I talked to a fellow recently that towed his 21 with a Nissan that is the same size as the Tacoma and he had no problems. I suspect that sway bars would be needed for sure. We use a F-150 now which is naturally fine but I would just rather have a smaller truck.
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:20 AM   #2
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Our Escape 21 tows well behind our 2005 Tundra, which is very similar to current Tacomas in size and capabilities. We love our smaller truck. The new Tundras are much much bigger.


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Old 11-29-2017, 09:25 AM   #3
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I have read a number of rhe old threads on this and much discussion is on the 5.0ta. Can anyone who has towed the 21 with a Tacoma comment? With the tow package, the trailer weight is well within specs. I talked to a fellow recently that towed his 21 with a Nissan that is the same size as the Tacoma and he had no problems. I suspect that sway bars would be needed for sure. We use a F-150 now which is naturally fine but I would just rather have a smaller truck.
I have friends in NH that picked up their 21 this past summer and are towing it with a Tacoma. I will call them and ask what hitch they are using and let you know. They have no problems with it.

Update: They use an equalizer hitch with a sway bar.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:40 AM   #4
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I am towing an new 21 with a 2016 Tacoma Off Road with added Sumo Springs. No WDH when towing my 17, but I do use one with the 21.

While I love the truck, and it worked well when I had a 17 that weighed 3100 lbs, I feel the 21 may be a bit much for it. While it is well within specifications, at 4600 lbs, and the truck has no problems towing or stopping the 21, the truck spends a lot of time in 3rd gear at 4000RPM sucking gas. Over the 3250 miles I've towed the 21, I have been getting 12MPG (US) or less. This is towing at 60MPH on secondary roads. On the interstates (still at 60MPH) it does a little better, but rarely makes it to 5th gear (with a 6 speed transmission).

Once I get back to NY, I may start looking at something else - Maybe the rumored 2019 Tundra redesign, or even one of the Ford Ecoboosts. It is a dilemma, because I really love the truck for everything but towing the 21.
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Old 11-29-2017, 11:00 AM   #5
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I used a Nissan Frontier with a 4.0 l V-6 to tow a 19 ft Scamp and it did ok but as others have said it seemed to be working awfully hard. I now have a Toyota Tundra Double Cab 4x4 w/the 4.6 l V-8. It hardly works at all towing my 5.0 TA and gets almost the same mileage as the V-6 running empty and towing does maybe a bit better because the RPMs stay much lower. Very comfortable and no suspension mods necessary. Gotta keep your foot out of the throttle though!
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Old 11-29-2017, 11:02 AM   #6
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Jon, I recall you were pretty sure you were going to a 19 when you got ur truck. Guess the surprise change to the 21 kinda veered off the plan.
12 mpg or less would be pretty hard to take for us in retirement planning as the FTimers say, fuel is usually the top expense.
We get between 15-16mpg with the Frontier and the 19 and I’d like to do better than that if I cud.
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Old 11-29-2017, 12:18 PM   #7
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Jon, what sort of mileage do you get with your Tacoma when you are not towing?

I'm sorry to hear that the new Tacoma / new 21 combo doesn't work as well as my 2013 Tacoma / 2014 Escape 21. I get 13 mpg towing and 20 mpg not towing, and I'm pretty happy with its driveability when towing.
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Old 11-29-2017, 01:42 PM   #8
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I have read a number of rhe old threads on this and much discussion is on the 5.0ta. Can anyone who has towed the 21 with a Tacoma comment? ...
We tow a '21 with a 2014 Tacoma with off-road and tow package plus manual transmission. While I love the manual tranny for driving in the mountains (with or without the trailer), it doesn't appear to help with gas milage. We're getting a nominal 12 mpg while towing. I'm usually driving in 5th gear while on the level.

The gross tow weight and hitch weight are well within the specs, but the total payload weight is very constrained. With a passenger and my topper I think I have about 200 pounds of remaining cargo capacity out of an initial 1100 pounds. So most of the time you will find us towing our '21 with an almost empty truck bed. Anything heavy, like spare water bottles for example, goes behind the front seats in our Access Cab (shorter than the Double Cab).

Drivability and stopping seem quite predictable. Especially after having to make a tire-screeching panic stop this summer while trying to merge onto the interstate. The stop was straight and it felt like all 8 wheels were doing what they were supposed to - thankfully.

Sometimes I envy the bigger Ford 150 for its power and capacity - but only until I have to pull into a tight parking space at my local grocery store. The envy stops there!

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Old 11-29-2017, 02:02 PM   #9
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I believe the new Taco's use the Atkinson motor. After test driving one and looking at the spec's it appears that Toyota's change from the older 4.0 L motor which was in my FJ Cruiser to the new one was a mistake. they are using gear and rear end ratios to make up for the lower power.
But the lower power gives it better efficiency and mpg. I decided against one.
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Old 11-29-2017, 03:39 PM   #10
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Hopefully more folks will chime in. Wait seems the jury is split on the Tacoma.

As to gas mileage, my f-150 ecoboost gets 11.5-12 towing the 21 going about 67mph.
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