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Old 09-14-2013, 01:58 AM   #11
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Thanks to all to have replied.

I have guesstimated our travel weights and we should have some spare capacity before hitting the rated weights. It will be my wife and dog, not a SUV full of kids. The GCWR is 9840 lbs, I estimate curb weight 4200, passengers 350 (including dog!), luggage 250, 19' trailer 4000 lbs., leaving 1000 lbs. leeway. I haven't had the luxury of a trailer before, I can't imagine that we will really have any luggage in the TV after packing the trailer.

I plan to get the Andersen WDH with sway control - the HL user manual says sway control is required for towing over 2000 lbs anyway. Gordon indicates the WDH will keep the TV close to level, so I am not worried about upgrades to the suspension.

I do feel that the 4Runner might tow somewhat better, but the Highlander feels more comfortable to ride in.

Interesting that in the thread about TV for the 21, 2 people are suggesting they use a Highlander with the 21, so I should probably not be worried about using it for a 19. I might need to take it easy on some of the nasty hills, but otherwise should be OK with the Highlander.

The RAV4 that Baglo uses for his 17 has the same engine type as the Highlander, although it may have been tweaked in 5 years. Even though the 17 is a few pounds lighter, Baglo must have a light load of beer compared to Gordon's load of food, etc to get a 20 kph advantage on the Coq.
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:22 PM   #12
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The RAV4 that Baglo uses for his 17 has the same engine type as the Highlander, although it may have been tweaked in 5 years. Even though the 17 is a few pounds lighter, Baglo must have a light load of beer compared to Gordon's load of food, etc to get a 20 kph advantage on the Coq.
Or he used more of the same available power, by driving in one gear lower when at the same road speed, or just by pushing the pedal down further.
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:24 PM   #13
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:47 PM   #14
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When it slowed to 70 kph or nearly, I pressed harder on the gas and it dropped to third, pulling me up to 80. But, I let the auto transmission decide. The one time that I manually selected 3 and booted it up the Coq at 90 kph, the transmission warning light came on. The manual says not to do that, and so I don't, anymore.
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:49 PM   #15
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I think a RAV V6 and a 17 Escape total weight would be approx 1,000 lbs less than a Highlander V6 and a 19. Perhaps another reason for the V6 RAV/Escape 17 combo doing a bit better on the hills than a Highlander/Escape 19.
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:11 AM   #16
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I agree that if the two rigs have the same power and one is heavier, the one with the lighter load (the Rav4/17 in this case) should be able to sustain a higher speed with the same amount of throttle. I was just joking about the lack of beer.... But each driver will have his own comfort level about how hard to push (or is it pull) his load up a steep incline.

This might be a good time to ask if any drivers have added readouts to check the transmission temperature or extra transmission coolers? Unless there is a readout on the TFT display, it looks the the Highlander just has an 'idiot' light for the ATF temp.

I guess the simple approach is to not be in a big hurry when tackling the Coq and take your time and enjoy the view.
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:59 AM   #17
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You have to remember Kirk, on the thread about pulling a 21' with a Highlander, there are not any 21's out there yet and these statements are what they intend to pull the new 21' with. Let's revisit in a year and see what the results are.
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Old 09-15-2013, 12:13 PM   #18
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I understand Jim, it hasn't happened yet, but one of the Highlander owners tows a 19 and must think it can handle at least a little bit more.
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I feel the FJ and the Escape 19 were a good match, but I think the 19 is the max for the FJ. That extra 300-400 lbs plus the tongue weight in the new 21' is a lot more. I'll try it over a local trip with the FJ, but for interstates I'll probably end up using the Ram Hemi.
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:30 PM   #20
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We pull our 19' Escape with a 2012 Toyota Highlander and it pulls it very nicely, even up hills. We've been across the Canadian Rockies a couple of times now, and its a great setup - very stable pulling (we have a weight-distributing hitch), but on the other hand, pretty nimble and easy to drive (we can even make it through the Tim Horton's Drivethru without difficulties!).
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