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Old 07-24-2013, 06:10 PM   #11
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Fran,

I agree, if I were to step up to the pending 21 5er, I think that would dictate are larger vehical, something I really would like to avoid. The cost to change vehicals as you know is significant. I hope you don't mind if I continue to ask questions. And, if I do decide to go with the 19-5.0, I may ask you for your hitch installers contact info., I would not mind at all making a trip down to NM since they did such a good on yours...my better judgement tells me I should go with the 19 5.0, but I don't always listen when I should...-

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Old 07-24-2013, 08:32 PM   #12
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Hi: FMLNM... As I've said before a good hitch shop is a must. Your rig looks great!!! You could gain some distance between the truck cab and trailer by lowering the hitch head and then letting out the pin box. It's a bit of work... for a few inches tho.
Your 5.0 doesn't appear to have the axle lift so you still need to stay with a good level tow. I'd run the rig by your hitch guys for a second opinion. I know my guy was interested in seeing ours as he did the hitch install without the trailer being there. My bro-in-law and I did the pin box at his welding shop.
Thanks for the pic's... they're worth a 1000 words. Alf
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:53 PM   #13
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Hi Alf,
Yes the hitch shop was a life saver! We can adjust the hitch so that the pivot point is 4" further back...we have to see if that is necessary. I had read that extending the pin box doesn't actually give you more distance because the pivot point is the same place but I could be mistaken.
When we were at Escape, Tammy's dad worked with us on hitching up and actually raised the hitch up a notch to lift the nose a tad. He said he prefers the nose to be a little up.....hmmm....I thought it was better to be level...
If the pin box adjustment does give us some space it might be worth doing.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:57 PM   #14
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By all means. We're happy to help.
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I hope you don't mind if I continue to ask questions. And, if I do decide to go with the 19-5.0, I may ask you for your hitch installers contact info., I would not mind at all making a trip down to NM since they did such a good on yours...my better judgement tells me I should go with the 19 5.0, but I don't always listen when I should...-

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Old 07-25-2013, 05:39 PM   #15
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Hi Fran and Dave,

If you don't mind, I would like to get you hitch installers contact info just in case we somehow lose contact. I am impressed with both your hitch and installation, and am leaning towards going with the 19'6 5.0, which will allow me to keep my Frontier short bed.

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Old 07-25-2013, 05:46 PM   #16
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One question I forgot, does the width of the 5.0 feel comfortable and not too narrow? I've yet to be in one, so not sure...

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Old 07-25-2013, 05:52 PM   #17
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Sure! It is Sandia Trailer Sales and Service They are located on Route 66, 12 miles east of Albuquerque.
Their website is: www.sandiatrailer.com
The fellow we dealt with was Nick Williams...he is their parts and service guy.
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Hi Fran and Dave,

If you don't mind, I would like to get you hitch installers contact info just in case we somehow lose contact. I am impressed with both your hitch and installation, and am leaning towards going with the 19'6 5.0, which will allow me to keep my Frontier short bed.

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Old 07-25-2013, 05:59 PM   #18
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Mike,
We were a little concerned about that too but it actually feels quite open...certainly compared to our previous Scamp 5er. Having the bed area open to the rest of the trailer and the additional interior height really makes it feel bigger - especially for Dave who is 6'2" and is loving the headroom!
Also, our windows have the pleated shades and so there is always lots of light even when the shades are down.

I do miss the counter space by the sink and stove that we had in the Scamp but there is good counter space between the bed and the door along with storage space. We will put our microwave over there since it did not come with one built in.

Hope that helps - you should try to find one nearby that you can look at...it will ease your concerns.

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One question I forgot, does the width of the 5.0 feel comfortable and not too narrow? I've yet to be in one, so not sure...

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Old 07-25-2013, 06:06 PM   #19
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Fran and Dave,

Thank you, this is very helpful, and your suggestion to find one nearby is a great idea. However, I am starting to believe this might not be an issue, your husband is much taller than I.

Also, thank you very much for your installers contact information!

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I had read that extending the pin box doesn't actually give you more distance because the pivot point is the same place but I could be mistaken.
Most pin boxes are angled, so that when the bolts are removed and the lower section is pulled further down, it also moves further forward. Your 5.0 pin box looks like it is at a 45 angle, so it moves the same distance forward as down. The pivot point is the pin, so moving the pin forward does change the pivot point relative to the trailer body (but not relative to the cab) and so allows a bit more clearance (not nearly as much as moving the hitch back from the cab the same distance); it also very slightly reduces the weight carried by the pin, without hurting stability.

Since your hitch is only one step (of one inch) from its lowest position, you would only be able to move the pin one position forward/down, and would move the hitch back down to compensate.

Since we're talking about the 5.0 pinbox... these are usually regular production components from a supplier such as Lippert, purchased ready-made by trailer companies such as Escape. Is there a manufacturer's name and model number on the pinbox? I'm just curious about some other options for hitching.
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