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Old 11-02-2014, 07:35 PM   #31
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Salt Lake City, then Bryce, Capitol Reef, Arches, Monument Valley, Grand Canyon, Zion
The place I was born and raised in, and all the places we went to when I was a kid. Nice trip.

I miss the scenery of Utah sometimes, but I don't miss the winters.
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Old 11-02-2014, 07:41 PM   #32
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Went to all those places last September and I still have red dirt in my truck.
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Old 11-02-2014, 07:43 PM   #33
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That trip to Utah was our way of celebrating my wife joining me in retirement. We have plans of going back for another look at the red rock country, but exploring further into the southwest. This is why we have ordered AC on our trailer, thinking it will be necessary in the heat of the southwest US.
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Old 11-02-2014, 08:09 PM   #34
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I looked up Downhill Assist in my RAV4 manual the other day. It's for crawling down steep terrain, not for highway speed.
I read someone's comments who used it and says it works best on long steep smooth downhills, not on rough slippery surfaces.
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Old 11-02-2014, 08:40 PM   #35
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Did you try using the Downhill Assist on your 4Runner?
What was your loaded weight and tongue weight?
Good questions, Floating Cloud. The 4Runner's Downhill Assist Control System (DAC) helps in maintaining control on steep downhills in 4WD low range while offroading, and isn't for use at highway speeds in high range. I've always just used S-mode to downshift to the right gear when descending mountain passes, with or without the trailer.

I didn't get a chance to weigh the trailer, since we picked it up at ETI and took off on our trip right away. Reace and the 21' owners I asked all said ~4300 pounds with the tanks drained. The tongue weight would be about 10% of that, and I constantly checked that the 4Runner didn't sag at the rear or steer erratically when the trailer was hitched up.
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Old 11-02-2014, 08:43 PM   #36
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Tundra vs. Sequoia Smackdown

Everyone's input to this thread has moved us much closer to clarity about what tow vehicle we need. Thanks for your excellent advice.

We're going to the Big Smoke (Vancouver) next weekend and will check out recent, preowned Tundras and the Sequoias. We won't be towing again until late March, so aren't under pressure to make a quick purchase. It sure helps to have the list of contenders reduced to two.

Surprisingly, my wife just told me she would prefer the Tundra, because we will be able to pick up the soil, fish compost, and fertilizer she needs for the garden, and haul away prunings and stuff to the dump, so there's probably no avoiding buying a pickup truck now.

It looks like Costco, the only store in our town that knows how wide parking spaces need to be in the real world, will get most of our business once we're driving the bigger vehicle.
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Old 11-02-2014, 08:47 PM   #37
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If you don't mind, could you drop by my place with your new truck? I've got a whole bunch of junk that needs to go to the dump.
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Cheryl and I will be glad to help you out, Glenn. Got beer?
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Good questions, Floating Cloud. The 4Runner's Downhill Assist Control System (DAC) helps in maintaining control on steep downhills in 4WD low range while offroading, and isn't for use at highway speeds in high range. I've always just used S-mode to downshift to the right gear when descending mountain passes, with or without the trailer.

I didn't get a chance to weigh the trailer, since we picked it up at ETI and took off on our trip right away. Reace and the 21' owners I asked all said ~4300 pounds with the tanks drained. The tongue weight would be about 10% of that, and I constantly checked that the 4Runner didn't sag at the rear or steer erratically when the trailer was hitched up.

Someone is apparently saying that he used DAC on the road, not off-road, and it worked well. I would think it would be too slow for most places but if I were high up on a steep road, I would give it a try based on what he said.

4300 lbs. is a common loaded weight when you have put several hundred pounds of stuff in, which not many people can manage on pick-up. The only way to know tongue weight is to weigh it. I hear that BC scales are even free maybe. We have to pay down here.

The Sequoia gets bad gas mileage, much as I might like one, so don't know about that. It is possible to put garden stuff in big bags that look as if made with tarps. I have had those for rock and such.
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