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Old 05-07-2014, 01:31 PM   #21
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Thanks for the reply. Its good to hear that the Tacoma is performing well. Have you modified the rear suspension or added air bags to your Tacoma? Which weight distribution hitch are you using?
I have not modified the suspension, but since it's a 4x4 it's probably beefed up a little anyway over the 4x2 model. I'll count the leaves on the rear springs when it isn't raining.

I have the Curt hitch, which I purchased at home in Florida, mainly because that's what the shop I use carries. It cost around $250, I think. When I asked if the Anderson was better, I was told that every hitch had to perform as specified, or the manufacturer would get sued. Made sense to me. I carried the Curt hitch with me to Chilliwack and ETI installed and adjusted it for me, but they charged me a set-up fee. I think the fee was for setting up the hitch, but I'm not sure. There was too much going on at the time.

And regarding towing capacity: I read the fine manual, and I stand corrected. I have the access cab model, code GRN245L-CRADKA, with the towing package, and its rating is 6500 pounds, not 7500 as I had thought.

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Old 05-07-2014, 02:41 PM   #22
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I have not modified the suspension, but since it's a 4x4 it's probably beefed up a little anyway over the 4x2 model. I'll count the leaves on the rear springs when it isn't raining.

I have the Curt hitch, which I purchased at home in Florida, mainly because that's what the shop I use carries. It cost around $250, I think. When I asked if the Anderson was better, I was told that every hitch had to perform as specified, or the manufacturer would get sued. Made sense to me. I carried the Curt hitch with me to Chilliwack and ETI installed and adjusted it for me, but they charged me a set-up fee. I think the fee was for setting up the hitch, but I'm not sure. There was too much going on at the time.

And regarding towing capacity: I read the fine manual, and I stand corrected. I have the access cab model, code GRN245L-CRADKA, with the towing package, and its rating is 6500 pounds, not 7500 as I had thought.

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Mike, thanks for the reply. This helps a lot.

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Old 05-07-2014, 03:22 PM   #23
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Thanks. I think I feel better about the Tacoma and the E21. Will look for your feedback from the trip to Michigan.
Hi Tom, I saved the following link for a Timbren kit which someone on the forum recommended at one time for the Tacoma.

Timbren Kits, Timbren Suspension Kits, Timbren Load Booster, Timbren Overload Springs, Timbrens - TruckSpring.com

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Old 05-07-2014, 03:35 PM   #24
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Hi Tom, I saved the following link for a Timbren kit which someone on the forum recommended at one time for the Tacoma.

Timbren Kits, Timbren Suspension Kits, Timbren Load Booster, Timbren Overload Springs, Timbrens - TruckSpring.com

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Jim, thanks for the tip.

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Old 05-07-2014, 05:37 PM   #25
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When I asked if the Anderson was better, I was told that every hitch had to perform as specified, or the manufacturer would get sued.
Okay, but with no specification of performance provided other than a weight capacity (which implies a breaking strength), those products can do - or not do - just about anything without incurring any risk of failure to perform as specified.
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Old 05-07-2014, 10:21 PM   #26
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I seem to remember that the Curt hitch I have is rated for an 8000 pound trailer. Once again, I'm not certain since I don't have the docs in front of me, but that is what I remember.

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I seem to remember that the Curt hitch I have is rated for an 8000 pound trailer.
I'll buy that - it's the weight of trailer the hitch can take without breaking, likely according to the SAE J684 standard. It's the only spec, so everything about load transfer (or "weight distribution") and sway control is hand-waving and marketing fluff, with no specs to back it up. The products work, but there is no promise of specifically how well they work, so there is no risk of failing to meet the non-existent specifications.
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Hi Tom, I saved the following link for a Timbren kit which someone on the forum recommended at one time for the Tacoma.

Timbren Kits, Timbren Suspension Kits, Timbren Load Booster, Timbren Overload Springs, Timbrens - TruckSpring.com

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What factors would indicate whether a Timbren (or other brand) kit or air bags would be the better choice to address rear-end sag? And how much sag is too much? cpaharley said that he had a 1-inch sag with his Ram while towing the 21 but wasn't concerned about it. When to worry? And would the answer depend on the vehicle and trailer combination? Can other actions safely mitigate sag w/o lightening the hitch weight too much? TIA.
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To me, if after hooking up the trailer, there is minimal change in suspension height, and the trailer is level, then you will be fine, as long as it tows well. If you have some sway while towing afterwards and need to redistribute weight forward and this causes some sag, then a decision will need to be made as to how to alleviate such.
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To me, if after hooking up the trailer, there is minimal change in suspension height, and the trailer is level, then you will be fine, as long as it tows well. If you have some sway while towing afterwards and need to redistribute weight forward and this causes some sag, then a decision will need to be made as to how to alleviate such.
Thanks Jim. That answers the when-to-worry portion of the Q. What about the preferred means to alleviate and why?
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