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Old 06-04-2013, 11:45 AM   #11
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We picked up our 19' Escape about a month ago. We tow with a 2012 Highlander and have been very pleased with the combo. I must admit the mpg kind of suprised me, I have been getting around 15 miles to the gallon so far, better than I expected. I had a independent shop handle the wiring for the 7 pin and brake controller.
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It seems strange that the car company's still seem perplexed at what equiptment people need to tow trailers. For the most part they have it figured out with full Size trucks with built in brake controllers and such but they sure seem to be missing the mark with smaller vehicles
I agree. A vehicle capable of towing 5000 lbs should be outfitted to use trailer breaks. Honda seems to understand this but not Toyota. I had trailer brakes when towing a 2500 lb boat and trailer. It was much safer towing that way when the boat had a full tank of gas and other gear.
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:37 PM   #12
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Rick / dkdoyle,

Do you use a WDH with your 19 and Highlander?
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:51 PM   #13
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Yes I use a WDH that I got when I picked up the Escape

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Old 06-04-2013, 08:42 PM   #14
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Yes I use a WDH that I got when I picked up the Escape

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Old 06-04-2013, 10:13 PM   #15
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A vehicle capable of towing 5000 lbs should be outfitted to use trailer breaks. Honda seems to understand this but not Toyota.
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It seems strange that the car company's still seem perplexed at what equiptment people need to tow trailers. For the most part they have it figured out with full Size trucks with built in brake controllers and such but they sure seem to be missing the mark with smaller vehicles
I don't think that this is a size or brand issue. I think Toyota equips vehicles with "truck" chassis (Tundra, Sequoia, Tacoma, 4Runner, FJ) with pre-wiring for trailers (including brake control connection), but not the other platforms... and other brands are similar.

Honda is unusual because they don't have a traditional truck chassis line, so their customers who seriously tow tend to get the Pilot or Ridgeline, and those models are equipped accordingly. They even have integrated hitches... because if they didn't have these features they would lose customers entirely, while at Toyota or Nissan it's just a reason to upsell to a heavier SUV.

The built-in brake controllers have only recently appeared in anything less than the biggest (e.g. Ford SuperDuty rather than F-150) and best equipped models, even among the full-size trucks.
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John, I'm wondering why your wife prefers the Highlander. We have been considering both.

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Old 06-05-2013, 08:46 AM   #17
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John, I'm wondering why your wife prefers the Highlander. We have been considering both.

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Ruth, She prefers the more car like ride of the Highlander. I noticed this too but the Pilot would work for me too. They are both really nice! We are used to driving small Mazdas so anything that can tow the 19 seems huge to us. I used to pull a boat with a full size pickup but it has been a few years and my wife rarely drove. I had to sell my toys to put the kids through college. We hope to do a lot of traveling now and into our retirement so I want to make sure she is comfortable handling some of the driving.
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:06 AM   #18
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I think most of the new SUV's drive nice. This ease of driving is why my wife likes the Pilot. I actually turns WAY tighter than her Mazda6 Sport Wagon, making parking lots easier to deal with.

I have driven my brothers 2012 Jeep Cherokee a few times, and it is nice to drive too.
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We have friends with both vehicles and both have good reviews and reputations. Probably the reality is which ever one you like to drive the most will be a good fit.
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:40 PM   #20
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I think most of the new SUV's drive nice. This ease of driving is why my wife likes the Pilot. I actually turns WAY tighter than her Mazda6 Sport Wagon, making parking lots easier to deal with.

I have driven my brothers 2012 Jeep Cherokee a few times, and it is nice to drive too.
Jim, I have a 2012 Pilot and am thinking of an Escape 19'. Do you need extended mirrors?
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