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Old 10-11-2018, 05:33 PM   #71
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We have a 2018 Toyota Highlander to pull our Sept Escape 19 -- it has not only been dream with the upgraded Weight Distribution system we got from Escape - but the average mileage pulling our Escape 19 about 3000 miles with our Toyota Highlander has been 14.7 mpg - this is over many many mountain passes up to 12,000 feet!! We are thrilled.
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Old 10-28-2018, 05:15 PM   #72
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indeed, these weight issues are why I upgraded from my Tacoma to a 2002 F250 diesel to pull our E21... the F250 diesel is reedonk... 2000 lb payload, 8800 lb GVWR, 6800 lb curb weight, 12500 lb hitch tow (WDH recommended above 6500 lbs), and 20,000 lb GCWR. even if I *was* pulling a 12500 lb trailer, thats 1250 lbs on the hitch (assuming 10%), that leaves 750 lbs for us plus gear while staying under GVWR and GCWR. as it is, pulling the < 5000 lb E21, I'll never ever go anywheres near capacity.

oh, and here's the back of my Tacoma with my telescope and minimum gear. ladder was on the roof rack and not visible.


here's the back of the F250 longbed with the same gear /including/ 7' ladder, admittedly without that aqua folding chair...


LOTS of room for additional camping gear.


edit: oh, and the 7.3 Ford turbodiesel gets just about exactly the same gas mileage as the 4.0L V6 Tacoma... around 18 cruising on the highway w/o towing, about 13 towing, and about 13 zipping around the town/county.
That looks like a 20" Obsession. If I got that right, I have the same telescope (#199) I'm planning on buying a Highlander. Hoping to haul the scope, ladder, ramps, case of eyepieces, etc. Did you ever weigh your truck empty and then with the scope?
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Old 10-28-2018, 09:12 PM   #73
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That looks like a 20" Obsession. If I got that right, I have the same telescope (#199) I'm planning on buying a Highlander. Hoping to haul the scope, ladder, ramps, case of eyepieces, etc. Did you ever weigh your truck empty and then with the scope?
indeed, a 20" f/5 Classic. #1141

no, I haven't weighed it, but the rocker box+ mirror box weighs about 100 lbs, the poles can't weigh more than 5 lbs total, and the top assembly only weighs about 13.5 lbs, my eyepiece case is heavier at 17 lbs. everything combined including the ladder and ramps has to be under 200 lbs.
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:03 PM   #74
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We have a 2018 Toyota Highlander to pull our Sept Escape 19 -- it has not only been dream with the upgraded Weight Distribution system we got from Escape - but the average mileage pulling our Escape 19 about 3000 miles with our Toyota Highlander has been 14.7 mpg - this is over many many mountain passes up to 12,000 feet!! We are thrilled.
When you say "upgraded" weight distribution system from Escape, can you please specify? Thanks.
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:33 AM   #75
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indeed, a 20" f/5 Classic. #1141

no, I haven't weighed it, but the rocker box+ mirror box weighs about 100 lbs, the poles can't weigh more than 5 lbs total, and the top assembly only weighs about 13.5 lbs, my eyepiece case is heavier at 17 lbs. everything combined including the ladder and ramps has to be under 200 lbs.
The reason I asked is because I want to make sure that the GVWR (@2018 Highlander) is not exceeded by the weight of 2 people, full tank of gas, hitch, and equipment. I am planning on purchasing a pair of light weight aluminum ramps (@24#) and another lighter weight ladder. As you know, an f/5 requires a 6' ladder.

FYI about 8 years ago I converted my scope to GoTo using a Servo controller, wireless handpad and receiver, and bluetooth connectivity. The laptop is mounted on the rockerbox. All commands are initiated through SkyTools. I've been very pleased with this setup. Images attached. IMG_2245-2.jpg

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Old 10-29-2018, 11:05 AM   #76
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Hello Richard form your neighbor in York,
A lot of people tow Escapes with the Highlander, but you do not mention which Escape you are interested in.
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Old 10-29-2018, 11:54 AM   #77
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Hello Richard form your neighbor in York,
A lot of people tow Escapes with the Highlander, but you do not mention which Escape you are interested in.
Whoops. Sorry Jim. I'm targeting the 19.
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The reason I asked is because I want to make sure that the GVWR (@2018 Highlander) is not exceeded by the weight of 2 people, full tank of gas, hitch, and equipment. I am planning on purchasing a pair of light weight aluminum ramps (@24#) and another lighter weight ladder. As you know, an f/5 requires a 6' ladder.
while I could use a 6' ladder, I've found short people --errr-- kids needed a 7' ladder when its up near zenith, so I got a Louisville, as at the time I couldn't find a 7' light weight Werner ladder. I'm seriously considering double-stepping it... some of my friends have orchard ladders with half spaced steps, that setup is awesome for big dobs.
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Old 10-29-2018, 06:50 PM   #79
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while I could use a 6' ladder, I've found short people --errr-- kids needed a 7' ladder when its up near zenith, so I got a Louisville, as at the time I couldn't find a 7' light weight Werner ladder. I'm seriously considering double-stepping it... some of my friends have orchard ladders with half spaced steps, that setup is awesome for big dobs.
The first time I recall double stepping a ladder was an article by Dave Kriege in the now defunct "Telescope Making". I'm thinking this was way back in 1999 give or take. I did that with mine. What a change! The problem is that I have a class 1 ladder (industrial grade). Real pain moving it around.
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yeah, thats why I like the class II fibreglass electricians ladder, very light. mine is rated for 250 lbs, i weigh 220, so its good to go.


p.s. I just weighed my ramps, they weigh 17 lbs each, but are rated to support an 800 lb motorcycle, so they are way sturdy enough that I can walk up the ramp while rolling hte scope into my F250... of course, your highlander isn't nearly as tall as my 4x4, my tailgate is 35-36" off the ground, hah.
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