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Old 07-18-2016, 07:06 PM   #1
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I have had all surge brakes on all my trailers Boats and Lil Snoozy trailer . Well Lil Snoozy just left this afternoon so I guess I'm getting the 21 Escape YaHoo. What type of brake controller does an older car need and where does one put it in ?I have a 7pin for my trailers so where do i go from here ? Thanks Jim
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Old 07-18-2016, 07:18 PM   #2
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First off, you need to update your avatar to your 21....I'd suggest going to your dealer and UHaul and Camping World and get some estimates, the Prodigy seems popular model.
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Old 07-18-2016, 07:28 PM   #3
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Unless the tow vehicle has it's own factory-installed integrated controller (and the Sequoia doesn't), it really doesn't matter what the tow vehicle is - you can use any controller. The inputs to the controller (just power, ground, and a signal that goes on when you push the brake pedal) are universal, and so is the output.

There are plug-in adapters for many vehicles, old and new, to connect both those inputs and the output of common current controllers. With any luck, Toyota wired your Sequoia so all you need to do is mount the controller on the dash and plug in one of those adapters. The owner's manual should mention the place to plug in, if there is one.

The eTrailer web page of brake controllers shows the corresponding wiring adapter with each controller if you select a 2007 Sequoia as your vehicle; they note that the Sequoia must have come from the factory with the 7-pin connector, because the wiring to plug into comes as part of the same package from Toyota. Each adapter ends in the same 4-pin white-bodied plug, because that's what goes into the socket provided somewhere under the dash by Toyota.

If the Sequoia didn't come with the 7-pin socket from the factory, then the rest of the desired wiring probably won't be there, either. That's why controllers listed for Sequoias without the factory wiring package have a wiring adapter that just ends in four plain wires, which you need to find places to connect to.

Funny, I would never think of a current-generation 9-year-old vehicle as "older".
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Old 07-18-2016, 07:30 PM   #4
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I'd suggest going to your dealer and UHaul and Camping World and get some estimates...
The first thing that they will need to know is whether the Sequoia has the factory wiring package or not, so I suggest sorting that out first.
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I'm sure either of these places would be able to show you what exactly you have and need, particularly the dealer. Also check to make sure you have a towing package and proper sized receiver, again the dealer can punch in your Vin# and give you that info.
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Just to add, once you know what's needed to wire it, and you're down to the choice of type, I highly recommend a proper proportional controller - not a timed delay controller. The timed delay controllers are very inexpensive, but you get what you pay for.


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Old 07-18-2016, 08:07 PM   #7
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I'm sure either of these places would be able to show you what exactly you have and need, particularly the dealer.
I wouldn't trust a U-Haul dealer to tell me what is needed - they can easily quote (and charge) the cost of custom-wiring the whole installation, when all it needs it a one-minute plug-in effort plus mounting the controller to the dashboard.

Around here, Toyota dealers outsource this sort of work to hitch shops. If it has the towing package you don't need anyone; if it doesn't you might as well go straight to a good hitch shop.

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Also check to make sure you have a towing package and proper sized receiver, again the dealer can punch in your Vin# and give you that info.
A Toyota dealer or Toyota USA customer service could check for the towing package - that's a good idea if you don't already know.

I doubt that it's possible to get anything but a properly sized hitch receiver for a Sequoia, even this less-massive first generation model. No one would bother to make a Class 1 or Class 2 receiver, or a receiver of any class with a smaller than two-inch opening, for this size and type of vehicle. Both Cequent and Curt aftermarket receivers are 2" and Class 4 (matched to the vehicle's towing capacity).
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Go to Etrailer or some such, they have the cable for the 07.

https://www.etrailer.com/bc-2007_Toyota_Sequoia.htm

Where you mount it is up to you, in my old GMC I screwed the mount to the bottom of the dash on the right side of the steering column.
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Go to Etrailer or some such, they have the cable for the 07.

https://www.etrailer.com/bc-2007_Toyota_Sequoia.htm
Yes, and the cable depends on the controller. Various different adapters are shown with the corresponding controllers in this page, which is the same link which I provided in post #3.
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:20 AM   #10
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The Sequoia did not have a tow package(it has the aux tranny cooler ) I had a trailer place put on a 7 pin and 6000 lb hitch class 3-4?(6800lb tow rating ) The 7 pin was used with an adapter to get a flat 5 pin to work (boat trailer with disc brakes )
4pin for light trailers and boats with drum brakes
5pin for trailers with surge disc brakes the 5th pin lets the solenoid block the brakes from activating when in reverse .
I'm hoping they did the 7 pin right and I don't have to modify it . I guess take it to a competent trailer place and have a prodigy installed .

Thanks for all the info that this forum supplies Jim
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