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Old 05-19-2013, 02:49 PM   #21
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Thanks for the info prairieboy,
I have 3 springs that are long enough to curve then 1 shorter and almost straight. Is that what you refer to as a 4pack? It is interesting what a few inches taller and wider trailer does to towing.
Are you considering sway control or just moving stuff around to add a some tongue weight?

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Old 05-19-2013, 03:45 PM   #22
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You have what I've called the 4 pack. I'm going to the Escape rally in 3 weeks and check out what everyone else has - so far I'm leaning towards purchasing the Andersen Hitch for the sway control. You're right, that few inches wider and higher does make a difference with the wind. What I also found interesting was the fuel economy, even thou the 19 is heavier, wider and higher, I used the same fuel, 15l per 100 km (something like 15-16 mpg). Go figure....
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:38 PM   #23
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Good to know my springs should be ok. Nice to hear your fuel mileage didnt change. Thats pretty good mileage. Hope you get some good info at the rally. If you have time please share your findings.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:05 PM   #24
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I going to use my andersen this week as a sway control, as I do not need w/d with my Ram. Will report back the benefits, if any.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:07 AM   #25
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If you don't really need WDH and choose to use it, if installed correctly will it have any adverse effects on towing or damage to the suspension?
Jim, have you noticed sway while towing with your Ram?
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:50 PM   #26
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If you don't really need WDH and choose to use it, if installed correctly will it have any adverse effects on towing or damage to the suspension?
Not if minimally applied. Jim will only need enough tension on the chains to keep them from going slack at any time, so they will turn the plate trigger the friction sway damping action.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:07 AM   #27
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Good point. After reading and watching install videos on the Andersen hitch, He can simply remove the chains and use the ball with the supplied collar and have swap control.
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:40 PM   #28
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I have a 2005 Toyota Tacoma and a 17b.

My truck received the TSB update about 8-10 months after buying it, while there was an improvement, it was less than perfect. I ended up getting the Firestone airbags after doing a trip with 2 motos and some camping gear in the box of the truck.

fast forward to this year. We purchased a used 17b through Escape and had it stored till just recently. I was unsure if I would go the WDH route or not, but a local auto parts store had the Curt WDHs on sale for $175 and it seemed like a no brainer to purchase. I only towed the 17b for about 20 miles before installing the WDH and I notice a pretty good improvement on towing the trailer, even though the trailer was in a "light" state.

We just got back from a ~500k trip and things went really well. We had 2 motocross bikes, 10g of fuel, 5g of water and a small gen in the back of the truck and the trailer was loaded with everything needed for 5 days of camping and 2 duffle bags filled with moto gear.

My Tacoma has a small lift in the front(1.75") to level the truck and a small jump in size for the tires. We camped in a field that was fairly rough and had to go through some small holes and do some tight turning and the WDH was not an issue at all. While I'm sure it would be easy to get away with not using the WDH, I found zero down side(for me) and felt it did improve the ride.
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Old 05-21-2013, 02:35 PM   #29
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We have a yukon xl with rear coil springs and a 19ft. I have the firestone air bags in the coils with a compressor kit. We don't really need a wdh but the issue I was having is the rear hatch of the truck wouldn't clear the tounge jack. I found a great deal on a used reese pro trunion style wdh. Th extra length of the reciever head provided the clearance for the hatch and it does tow better. Seems to not bounce around as much. Using the air bags to keep the back of the truck at the proper ride and the wdh to tie every thing together seems to provide a great secure feel while towing.
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Old 05-21-2013, 03:14 PM   #30
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After reading and watching install videos on the Andersen hitch, He can simply remove the chains and use the ball with the supplied collar and have [sway] control.
I don't think so. With no chains, there would be nothing to turn the rotating part of the hitch (ball, vertical shaft, hardware attached to it) so there would be no sway-damping friction between the rotating parts and the stationary parts. Without the chains, I believe that the Anderson hitch is just a plain adjustable-height ball mount.

To get sway control from an Anderson hitch with minimal weight-distribution action, the chains would need to be just tight enough to avoid slack.
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