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Old 10-28-2013, 02:12 PM   #31
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Donna, the "naked" weight of our 19 was 3130 lbs which included dual 6v batteries, AC, thermal windows, and insulation package,
Hi Mike M.,

Sorry, I don't know exactly what "naked" weight means? Is it with all tanks full (propane, black, grey, fresh), but no personal cargo on board (pots, pans, clothes, etc.)?

Thanks. J
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:40 PM   #32
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Hi Mike M.,

Sorry, I don't know exactly what "naked" weight means? Is it with all tanks full (propane, black, grey, fresh), but no personal cargo on board (pots, pans, clothes, etc.)?

Thanks. J
It's the weight of the trailer as it came from the factory. We had absolutely none of our stuff in the trailer. The propane tanks were full but all of the holding tanks were empty. The trailer options (including full propane tanks) added about 600 lbs to the advertised dry weight of the trailer.
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:00 PM   #33
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It's the weight of the trailer as it came from the factory. We had absolutely none of our stuff in the trailer. The propane tanks were full but all of the holding tanks were empty. The trailer options (including full propane tanks) added about 600 lbs to the advertised dry weight of the trailer.

Thanks very much for taking time to reply Mike.

Hopefully someone out there can double check my math for me - I'm just trying to figure things out because I've been reading about ensuring the trailer and tow vehicles are properly loaded:

If the 3 tanks are more or less full, that'll add something like 600 lbs to Mike's awesomely accessorized 19', leaving 270 lbs for personal gear, dog food, etc.?

270 lbs doesn't seem like a lot, but I suppose it probably is? And I suppose all 3 tanks are not usually full at the same time? j
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:25 PM   #34
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...And I suppose all 3 tanks are not usually full at the same time? j
You would usually empty the freshwater tank as the black and grey are being filled. Thus for a likely worst case, I would assume that the grey and black could be filled, with the fresh tank empty.
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:53 PM   #35
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You would usually empty the freshwater tank as the black and grey are being filled. Thus for a likely worst case, I would assume that the grey and black could be filled, with the fresh tank empty.
Exactly, almost. Your use of the fresh tank should fill either the black or gray, but not both. If you have fresh water and not using the fresh tank, then more than likely you will also have dump facilities. On the norm, I carry 10 gal in fresh to use while enroute. If boon docking, then the fresh is full.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:12 PM   #36
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Scale use

Thanks Paul for the information. My wife was just thinking today that there must be a list. Do you know what the rules are? In our travels through other states there were many that posted signs for trucks only, NO RVs. I haven't seen that here, but the operator, even though the display was lit, wouldn't allow the scale to take the measurement. Maybe he was having a bad day??
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:35 PM   #37
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Tom, You'll probably want to recon the scale before you take the trailer there.
The one by me is one of the old, small white buildings that is not staffed - strictly self serve. I'd say it's a relic of the days when logging trucks were common along hwy 9. The state evidently decided to leave it operational for my convenience when they improved the highway recently
I've seen several others along the highways in Washington and Oregon.
If you want a certificate for some reason, you'll need to go to a pay scale.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:47 PM   #38
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In Oregon, most of the scales are managed by ODOT (Oregon Department of Transportation), hence they're paid for by Oregon tax dollars and left "open." Only privately owned scales, TA truck stop, etc. have I seen where they restrict to trucks only. But in Oregon you get what you pay for... and FREE scales aren't certified.

I can also weigh my trailer at gravel yards and debris yards (for $) and they give me a certified weight certificate.

The free ones are for my own amusement...
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Tom, public scales are often for commercial trucks only. It is at the discretion of the operator as to whether you can use one. Likely not.

As for a Sherline, you should not get a variation like that unless you have changed the height quite a bit. An inch one way or the other means many pounds difference. Re-weighs have to be taken very carefully in exactly the same place which is as close to level as possible. The idea with hitching is to be level but of course that can be off a little.

So at a truck scale, there could easily be a variation from the Sherline because you are probably not exactly level. Also, the truck scale is measuring so many thousands for large trucks and when you get down to the tiny kind of tongue weights we have, can't expect the tongue weights to match up. They wouldn't be nearly as far off as the variation you have with your Sherline though!

Your wildly different weights probably are not the Sherline but how you used the scale. You might try some more weighings. Then again, not impossible that the scale was somehow damaged in shipping.
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You would usually empty the freshwater tank as the black and grey are being filled. Thus for a likely worst case, I would assume that the grey and black could be filled, with the fresh tank empty.
The normal industry practice, used to establish the Cargo Carrying Capacity posted on an Escape (as on other RVs), follows this logic, but allowing for full fresh water and empty waste tanks. I believe the idea is that at the beginning of a leg of a trip you fill the fresh tank, then that same water moves to the waste tanks (in whatever proportion), but it all comes from the fresh tank so its volume is the controlling factor.
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