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Old 12-04-2013, 12:16 PM   #91
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... so take this with great assault.
I very much appreciate your efforts in this area - and I do not feel at all (let alone great) assault. (LOL) However, I might use a grain of salt. (VBG)

Seriously -thanks for this work.
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Old 12-04-2013, 02:00 PM   #92
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Thanks Doug and Karen, grain of salt sounds much better. That's what I get for growing up and going to school in Scottsdale.
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Old 12-04-2013, 02:19 PM   #93
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Thanks Doug and Karen, grain of salt sounds much better. That's what I get for growing up and going to school in Scottsdale.
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I never blame other people, but a machine? I like that idea!!
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Old 12-04-2013, 07:39 PM   #95
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"Would just have to support the tongue about mid way between the two scales on a cross piece spanning both scales. Then the total tongue weight would be the sum of the two scale readings."

That would work, but if you think about it, you could do the same with just one scale and multiply by two. (If you supported the tongue exactly midway on the cross piece...)
The leverage approach is commonly recommended to get around scale limitations. By changing the leverage, you can get increased capacity at the expense of less precision and accuracy to any extent you want. It seems very prone to errors in setup, but if you use exactly the same setup each time perhaps it could be decently reproducible.
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Old 12-04-2013, 07:50 PM   #96
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The leverage approach is commonly recommended to get around scale limitations. By changing the leverage, you can get increased capacity at the expense of less precision and accuracy to any extent you want. It seems very prone to errors in setup, but if you use exactly the same setup each time perhaps it could be decently reproducible.
The point of my previous post was that if you use a cross piece loading fairly uniformly over two scales, this will improve your reproducibility of readings. Of course, two scales is about twice the cost of one.
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The point of my previous post was that if you use a cross piece loading fairly uniformly over two scales, this will improve your reproducibility of readings.
Absolutely. My comments on the leverage approach were about the one-scale method, not this idea of distributing between two scales.
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:49 PM   #98
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I stopped at the scale on the way home today to get the "as delivered" weight of our 21.
With no WDH engaged it was 3220 on the axles and 3600 total for a 380 hitch.
No water anywhere & 2 full propane tanks.
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Extra insulation, double pane, spray foam, extra window in bath, AC, solar, dual 6 volts, screen room, storage box, surge pro, 2 reinforced walls, 3 shelves in cabinet, bike rack ready, some extra lights and outlets, outside propne quick connect & hose
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Thanks Paul, Norma, and The Girls, weight information is always appreciated. Giving all your options is also very helpful. Sounds like your 21 is decked out.
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Thanks Paul ( & Norma & The Girls). That's 550 pounds over the published dry/empty weight specification, which seems reasonable to me given the propane and the options. The tongue weight is higher than required, but the propane tanks (and batteries?) are on the tongue, and the cargo won't be.
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