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Old 02-15-2011, 08:38 PM   #21
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quote: Pulling 3,000 or more pounds with a vehicle that weighs 3370 pounds (curb weight of Rav4 V6) could be a bit scary

I just want to note that a semi trailer truck cab doesn't weigh anywhere near what its load weighs. It operates as a unit, as does a tow vehicle, equipped with a weight distribution hitch and the trailer, with it's brakes.



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Old 02-16-2011, 12:56 AM   #22
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I know a rule of thumb is good only for measuring thumbs, But.

If you need low gear to pull a vehicle up a hill, then you should also be in low gear when you go down a hill with the same weight.

If you start down a hill with a weight that is more than the tow vehicle can handle, and your speed or load gets out of hand, it is to late to gear down. so it is better to start down the hill in the proper gear that can control the load, and keep your speed down.

I hope you understand what I am trying to say.


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Old 02-16-2011, 01:02 AM   #23
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Hi: All... I really feel that trailer towing is as much a state of mind as class of tug!!! I would certainly not advocate breaking all the guide lines set out by the Mfg's, but some grains of salt are required. Understanding the mind set of the guy/gal in the red sports job trying to pass you is also required.
Our first trailer was a Boler 13'er. The tow cap. of our Taurus wagon is only 1250lbs. but it's rated to carry 2000lbs of cargo/ 7 pass. Rightly or wrongly I figured I could max. out on the tow for just the two of us and not much cargo.
We haven't had the pleasure of our new combo yet but with the old tug running 58 MPH. we averaged 18.5 MPG. on a 3000 Mi. trip. I have never felt the trailer wagging the tug but I have experienced major brake fade after a series of steep grades in the Eastern Mts.
So far I've only heard of one crack up of an Escape trailer followed by a plea from Reace& Tammy on the safe loading of your trailer.
"Know your limit and tow with in it" is sage advice. Alf
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:44 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by Pete_Linda
I would not personally want to pull a 17ft. Escape with a Rav4, even though I know lots of folks do and seem to have no problems with it. It is not an easy decision. Pulling 3,000 or more pounds with a vehicle that weighs 3370 pounds (curb weight of Rav4 V6) could be a bit scary coming down some steep passes. Just my opinion.

I have towed my 3000# trailer with my RAV4 over the Salmo-Creston pass in both directions and had absolutely no trouble. I did climb at 80 km/h instead of the posted 90. The tow vehicle is rated to tow 3500#, which means I have a 14% safety margin. It is critical to have the brakes properly adjusted, though.


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