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Old 02-14-2011, 04:00 AM   #1
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Hi Escapees!

We've just discovered the wonderful world of Escape Trailers and have enjoyed reading our way through the forums. Sure sounds like they are a good product. We were looking at ordering a new 15, but then saw Norm's ad for the older 17A. We're retired/semi-retired and look forward to getting back into camping after dealing with health issues for the past 3 or 4 years. Our previous camping experience was in tents, but the old knees and back won't take the groundwork anymore. Any words of wisdom would be welcome. Must have options? Does size count? Does age matter? ...for trailers, of course!! Also, are they easy to set up, back-up etc. as I expect to be on a sharp learning curve about it all.

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Old 02-14-2011, 07:19 AM   #2
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Pam and Doug:

Welcome to the Escape Forum!

I retired in May of 2009 and it was while we were tent camping in July of 2009 that my wife asked me if I would consider getting a small trailer to make getting up a bit easier. I did some digging on Internet and on August 4, 2009 we ordered our Escape 13. You can hear the full story on the "Meet the Escapees" section of the forum where you can also hear other people's stories. While we have been camping with our little trailer for only about one year we have been delighted with it and have already been out once this year. See the link below:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brian_v...059614/detail/

I think the options and size are quite an individual thing. We ordered the smallest size (13 foot at the time) because we have a small car and wanted a trailer which it could tow. A small trailer is already quite a step up from a tent. It is wonderful having a small "home away from home" that can go almost anywhere in any season and in any type of weather. With nice beds, a kitchen, running hot and cold water, a furnace, fridge, what more could you ask? Larger units give more room and the luxury of a shower, but we have found the excellent state parks in Washington and Oregon have good showers, and we have a porta potti in its own cabinet which gets us through the nights, and it works just fine. I don't think age is any barrier to owning a trailer as long as you are mobile. Setting up and taking down a trailer is pretty straight forward and not hard work.

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Old 02-14-2011, 07:45 AM   #3
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Hi: dpsmith...Welcome to our little "Glass" corner.
The biggest factor in buying used is condition...not age. Every part of these trailers can be repaired or replaced. Another big consideration is the high resale value. So if you buy used it's almost new price should hold true for the second buyer etc. I spoke to a former used Trillium Trailer owner who sold after two years for what he paid!!! If you buy used and find that your missing something important it is usually easy to order new and resell.
That said I'm biased!!!
As for set up nothing could be easier. Park it, unhook it, level it, put out the awning, mat, & chairs and open a beer. 15 min. or less. The more times you do it the better. Sometimes I can even convince my wife to open the beer for me!!! Alf
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:31 AM   #4
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Hi Pam and Doug. Welcome aboard.

As Alf mentioned, as long as it was well cared for, I would have no reservation buying an older Escape trailer. Besides, it really is not that old.

I too come from a tenting background, in fact I still use a tent in the backcountry where the trailer can't go.

Using a trailer is an easy thing. Reversing will come with practice. Empty parking lots in the evening are a great place to practice, and they even have lines marked for reference.
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:37 AM   #5
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WE went from a tent to a tent trailer to 32 foot travel trailer.
Which was to big to heavy.
So After many RV shows and talking to people.
Decided on a 19 Escape Aug. 2010
Being 7' wide it is in the slip stream of the tug.
very happy with it, and the staff.
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:48 PM   #6
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I too have moved from sleeping under the stars, to a tent, to a tent trailer, and we now have an Escape 19 on order. We won't use it all that much right away but when we retire in a 4 years, it will be suitable for anything from a week at a local campground to a few months down south in the winter to escape the cold winters that we have here. We had a fair idea of the size we wanted from our experience with our tent trailer. It was about 15' long when set up and we couldn't see ourselves going any smaller. The body on the Escape 19 is 15'-8".

In regards to choosing the size of the trailer, I suggest that you buy the trailer you need/want and then get an appropriate tow vehicle if what you have now won't pull it safely. I see an Escape trailer as a long term investment as opposed to a car/truck which wears out more quickly and needs more frequent replacement. There is a tendency for people to choose the largest trailer that their current vehicle will pull, and then wonder why they didn't buy a larger one a few years later when they have a tow vehicle with a larger capacity.

When we bought the tent trailer, it was at the top end of our vehicle's 2000# towing capacity. A few years later one of our cars got written off in an accident so we bought something with a 3500# towing capacity. The Escape 19 will be near the top end of our current vehicle's range, but the next vehicle will have a the greater towing capacity that it requires.
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:28 PM   #7
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In regards to choosing the size of the trailer, I suggest that you buy the trailer you need/want and then get an appropriate tow vehicle if what you have now won't pull it safely. I see an Escape trailer as a long term investment as opposed to a car/truck which wears out more quickly and needs more frequent replacement. There is a tendency for people to choose the largest trailer that their current vehicle will pull, and then wonder why they didn't buy a larger one a few years later when they have a tow vehicle with a larger capacity.

When we bought the tent trailer, it was at the top end of our vehicle's 2000# towing capacity. A few years later one of our cars got written off in an accident so we bought something with a 3500# towing capacity. The Escape 19 will be near the top end of our current vehicle's range, but the next vehicle will have a the greater towing capacity that it requires.
My wife and I chose a 17b for reasons similar but opposite to Harold's logic?

With a trailer that may still be useable in 20 or more years (think Boler ) what will the cost of fuel be for that cross-continent trip that we dream about? We chose the smallest trailer that still suited our needs 'cuz gas does not seem to be going down in price and v8 motors may be very expensive to run as gas costs approach European prices.

Like Harold says, the tow vehicle will change but what will you be able to afford to drive? If you need a full sized pickup to pull the trailer, you might consider buying one of those huge stickbuilt toy hauler trailers. The magic of Escape is fuel economy (as well as quality, customer service, etc).

Think smaller!

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Old 02-14-2011, 08:43 PM   #8
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I'd say most of us, if not all, went the tent (good grief, 2 boys in a backpacking tent), to a pop up (easy to put up in the rain, but what a pain to put down in the rain), to a first trailer (a 17' Casita for us), to what we want to take us the rest of the way (HokieEscape - our 5.0). I'd have to agree with both Harold and Gord. Get what you think will take you the distance, and be happy. For Brian, the 13 is perfect...the 17 is perfect for Gord.....Jim knows his wife needed a little more space, so the 19 is perfect for him....and with 12 grandkids, and with them wanting to travel with Poppy and Nana (only 2 at a time), the 5.0 is perfect for us...(Alf needs the 5.0 for all his beer and Marianne's sewing machine!). But the Escape is perfect for all of us because we have a choice, and you don't need a gas guzzling V8 to pull it! A V6 works just great for any of those trailers. So, even with the largest Escapes (the 19 and 5.0) you'll still be able to pull them when you retire : - )
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My wife and I chose a 17b for reasons similar but opposite to Harold's logic?

With a trailer that may still be useable in 20 or more years (think Boler ) what will the cost of fuel be for that cross-continent trip that we dream about? We chose the smallest trailer that still suited our needs 'cuz gas does not seem to be going down in price and v8 motors may be very expensive to run as gas costs approach European prices.

Like Harold says, the tow vehicle will change but what will you be able to afford to drive? If you need a full sized pickup to pull the trailer, you might consider buying one of those huge stickbuilt toy hauler trailers. The magic of Escape is fuel economy (as well as quality, customer service, etc).

Think smaller!

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Looks like the 17b is 2100lbs dry, and the 19 is 2510 dry. That's about 20% more weight. But the lightest of those toy haulers is about 5000 lbs BEFORE you put the toys in them.
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:27 PM   #10
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Gas mileage varies and there's so many different variables . when I towed 17ft PlanB with our Highlander I think I got around 14-15 MPG.. When I towed our 19ft Bambi with our F150 I got around 15-16MPG.. The Airstream was much heavier, but the Truck was more suited to towing than the Highlander..

We pretty much try to stay around 65mph (both set-ups)

I haven't gotten around to figuring out mileage the 24ft Itasca Impulse as of yet..
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