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Old 04-17-2009, 01:27 AM   #1
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What's your tug for a 19'

I'm curious what people are using, or plan to use to tow their 19' Escapes.
Currrently I tow a 13' Boler with a CRV, but I'm seriously considering upgrading to a larger Escape and of course I'll need a different vehicle.
The balance between decent mileage driving around, while still having the omph to pull a TT will have some impact on whether I chose 17 or 19.
Any feedback/suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:25 AM   #2
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Re: What's your tug for a 19'

I went looking 8 months ago knowing I was going to get a trailer like the 19, and after looking around decided on the '09 Honda Pilot. I am quite happy with it, it is well thought out and real easy to drive. It is no speed demon, nor is it sporty looking, but the bottom line is that it works wonderfully. I am looking forward to hooking it up to my 19 when I pick it up. It has a 4,500 lb towing capacity. I got the Touring model, so it came 100% ready to hook up to a trailer, with only a brake controller needed. All models of the '09 Pilots come with a hitch receiver and are real easy to set up for towing.

That said, there are dozens of V6 powered vehicles that are very capable for towing. I would choose one that also fits all your other needs too.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:50 PM   #3
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Re: What's your tug for a 19'

We pulled our 19 footer home with a 2005 Toyota Sienna with the towing package, equalizer hitch from Reace. We got 6 km/l going up the Coquihalla which has some steep grades. The rest of the way home we got 6.3 - 6.7 km/l. My husband wants to upgrade next year to the new Highlander which has a 5000 lb. towing capacity, the Sienna only has 3500.
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Re: What's your tug for a 19'

We will be towing our 19 Escape with our Toyota Tacoma
it has the TRD package so it will tow 6500LBS.
We ordered our Escape with the high lift axle
so it will be perfectly level with our truck.
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Re: What's your tug for a 19'

Doug,

Did you verify hitch height of the high-lift axel trailer with the Tacoma TDR? Are you getting the equilizer hitch?

You'll save me a bunch of time researching.


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Re: What's your tug for a 19'

Hi Edgar

Yes I checked it with Tammy and she said it would be about 22" to the top of the hitch ball
The Tacoma measures about 22.5" (also to the ball top), so it should work perfectly,
I'm also getting the equalizer hitch when I pick up the trailer, my neighbour has a 08 Tacoma SR5
and he pulls a 5000+ LB trailer with no problems.
Hope this helps

ps:- that little cubby hole down and to the right of the steering wheel holds
a Takonsha Prodigy brake controller perfectly.
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Re: What's your tug for a 19'

Doug, do you think you will need an equalizer hitch? I was planning on going without one, as Honda recommends to not use them (not sure why though). I will likely just use a friction sway bar for now and see how it does.

The Pilot does not have a great place to put the brake controller, I have to watch my knee getting in. I went with the Tekonsha P3. Installation was a snap though, about 5 minutes tops.

I am not following the 22.5" to the top of the ball though, does that not depend on what the offset is on the hitch? The top of my reciever is at 19", so I will need to figure out what I need for a hitch soon too.
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:50 PM   #8
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Re: What's your tug for a 19'

We are intending to pull our 19 with our 2000 Toyota 4Runner. It is rated for pulling 4500 lbs., has the factory tow package and we have pulled both of our 17' Casitas with it - they are rated 2385 lbs dry weight. With the 19 at 2600 lbs there abouts I feel it should do the job, and I doubt we load up 1900 lbs. of stuff in the camper. Without towing, we get about 20-22 mpg with the V-6. We used a WDH (weight distribution hitch) with the Casitas as they came with it and I like the fact that the WDH takes some of the strain off the TV rear suspension. I'm not sure it is necessary with the 4Runner, but I am comfortable giving the car a bit of a break.
When pulling the Casitas, all was smooth on the flat or gentle hills, but with steeper hills she's a-workin' pretty hard. We had a VW camper van quite a while ago, so I've been used to being passed on the longer hills :-). Our first Casita had an anti-sway bar, but I never used it - both of them towed like a dream even with cross winds and only gave an occasional minor acknowledgment of being passed by an 18 wheeler. I feel pretty sure I will experience the same with the 19.
In selecting a tow vehicle, check the weight it is rated for in towing. The higher the poundage, the more comfortable the vehicle will be in its job and the happier you will be in the end. Unless it is a highly rated rig, I would recommend a WDH for the reason mentioned previously. Finally, I would guess that you balance the towing weight with the estimated gas milage of the proposed tow vehicle and what percentage of your driving will be done towing the trailer - in the end, it's all a balancing act - milage and usage...
Hope this helps, just an opinion after all... Ian




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Re: What's your tug for a 19'

quote: do you think you will need an equalizer hitch? I was planning on going without one, as Honda recommends to not use them (not sure why though).


Toyota also does not recommend a equalizer hitch on the RAV. However, it's just a sentence in the text and not a highlighted yellow warning. I have searched the web, sent email to Toyota ( no response ) and have not got a rationale for the recommendation.

I spoke to a tech at a large hitch installer and he said it isn't an issue and Escape recommends them, particularly with front wheel drive ( which may be all that's operating at any given time on a 4-wheel-drive vehicle ). He said it's like a manufacturer who puts "Off Road" decals on the vehicle and then in the manual recommends you stay on pavement.

Just covering their ass.

And, you will find the ride in the tow more comfortable with the equalizer hitch.

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Re: What's your tug for a 19'

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Doug, do you think you will need an equalizer hitch? I was planning on going without one, as Honda recommends to not use them (not sure why though). I will likely just use a friction sway bar for now and see how it does.

The Pilot does not have a great place to put the brake controller, I have to watch my knee getting in. I went with the Tekonsha P3. Installation was a snap though, about 5 minutes tops.

I am not following the 22.5" to the top of the ball though, does that not depend on what the offset is on the hitch? The top of my reciever is at 19", so I will need to figure out what I need for a hitch soon too.
Hi Jim

I could probably get away without one, but I know the back end of my Tacoma
will ride a bit lower with the tongue weight on it and I would have to air up the rear tires.
With that in mind I have helped hook my neighbour's truck & trailer and when we
adjusted the equalizer hitch everything leveled out sooooo nice I think its the only way to go.

As for the ball hight, that is using the straight hitch that comes with the equalizer assembly
which in my Tacoma receiver works out to 22.5" to the ball top.
Sorry I snitched the picture from Escape site.


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