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Old 03-23-2013, 05:26 PM   #11
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The engine is irrelevant to towing safety (unless you break down in the middle of the road); safe towing capacity is related to the ability of the tug to control the trailer and support the tongue weight, which in turn depends on factors such as wheelbase and suspension.

Despite assertions in forums, I have never seen any indication of any legal requirement regarding tow capacity. The numbers posted on a non-commercial vehicle placard are for axle load and gross vehicle weight (not gross combination weight) - those are what is enforceable.

As is so often the case, what is legal is almost irrelevant, since what is rational and safe is more conservative than any legal limit.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:35 PM   #12
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You may be better off renting a vehicle that is within the specifications, if as you say it is only being used 4 weeks a year.
This makes sense, but it is difficult to rent a vehicle which is set up for towing, and expensive to rent a heavy-duty pickup that is set up from a company that caters to industrial clients. The Escape could be equipped with hydraulic surge brakes, or a remote-controlled trailer-mounted electric brake controller (Tekonsha Prodigy RF), but it would still be necessary to find SUVs or pickups in rental fleets with hitches and trailer wiring from the factory... and even then the rental agreement may forbid towing. I would look into the details before pursuing this plan.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:13 PM   #13
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You will travel without the anxiety and white knuckles of towing on the edge, if you get 5,000 lb. tow capacity. It's worth it.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:38 PM   #14
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My goal was to find the smallest (most economical) vehicle possible while still tow 5000lb safely. I did do some research and found out that just about all vehicles are either 3500lb-class or 4500lb+ class. The latter groups include vehicles like Highlander, Santa Fe LWB, Pilot, Pathfinder, Traverse, Explorer, etc. All of them are long and features 3 rows of seats. We are empty nesters, so 99% of the time, there's only two of us in the car. So although 3 rows might be nice for those 0.5% of the time, its not really needed.

I've looked at both Escape 17 and 19 carefully. I really want the 19 - our camping style needs a bed and a dining table separate and the table needs to be of a decent size. And it needs to have a shower/toilet. 19 fits the bill, 17 does not.

So given this, I believe the only choice I have is to get one of the 4500lb+ capable vehicle. The front runner right now is the Santa Fe LWB - it really is nice, better IMO than all other 3 row crossover. Toyota will release a new Highlander soon, so that will be a factor as well. Pilot is really dated compare to the Santa Fe if you compare them in person. I haven't checked out the Pathfinder yet but I am somewhat biased here, since I owned two Nissans in the past and both gave me a lot of trouble and both were purchased new.

So for now, the leading candidates are 2013 Santa Fe LWB, 2014 Toyota Highlander (don't even know what it looks like yet) and perhaps 2013 Pathfinder.

Another possibility I'm looking into is the Audi Q5 2.0T. This one is rated at 4400lb. Does anyone see any issues pulling the Escape 19 with the Q5? Surprisingly, the wheelbase of Q5 is LONGER than the Highlander! Plus, I always wanted to try out an Audi before I die.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:57 PM   #15
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Check out Phil Edmonston's truck and car guides.

As for the Audi, I recollect ( and it may have been Phil ) on a radio show where the Audi line was not recommended. Tended to fall apart shortly after the warranty expired.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:34 AM   #16
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I think you are missing the Toyota 4 Runner as a choice. I think the 4 Runner maybe the most common tow vehicle in use. There are many of us who tow without a WDH.
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Old 03-24-2013, 09:14 AM   #17
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"My goal was to find the smallest (most economical) vehicle possible while still tow 5000lb safely."
"I've looked at both Escape 17 and 19 carefully. I really want the 19 - our camping style needs a bed and a dining table separate and the table needs to be of a decent size. And it needs to have a shower/toilet. 19 fits the bill, 17 does not.
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These two thoughts contradict one another, the smallest and most economical tow vehicle that will tow an Escape 19, which is basically your hotel room with a kitchen are opposite one another. Towing over mountains and for hours on end is not for a small vehicle nor is it economical. Your towing mileage will drop dramatically because you are bringing along another vehicle behind you, your lodging for your trip. You do not want to cut your margin of safety because sometimes you will need 4 wheel drive, you will need to get out of a mud hole after a rain, unless you are planning on staying only on paved surfaces, you will need a versatile vehicle. You will need bigger brakes due to a 3500# vehicle pushing you down the road.
It would be better to think about getting the biggest and most safe type vehicle that you may ever need that can handle your Escape under any type of situation and have good brakes and good electrical that will charge your trailer and that can handle thousands of miles of towing without undue strain or stress on the vehicle or it's occupants.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:42 AM   #18
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The Ford Ranger has/had a very economically priced used selection. From 2008 until they stopped making them most Rangers came with tow packages.
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...My goal was to find the smallest (most economical) vehicle possible while still tow 5000lb safely.
Whether this works depends on how much "hooked vs unhooked" driving you do. The larger trucks often have better mileage when towing than the smaller vehicles. I know I take quite a hit with the RAV4 & my Escape 17. 24-25MPG highway unhooked, but down to 15MPG when towing. For me it works well because I often drop the trailer & drive around the area plus it is my daily driver when home. If most of your driving is towing, a larger vehicle might actually do better...
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I think you are missing the Toyota 4 Runner as a choice.
I think the 4Runner is a valid choice, but since the idea was to find the smallest and most fuel-efficient vehicle (with 5000 lb towing capacity), the Highlander would make the list instead (from the Toyota lineup).

The Highlander is not much more fuel efficient than the 4Runner, not much lighter, and slightly shorter in wheelbase, so perhaps the 4Runner - which is certainly suitable for towing - should be considered anyway.

These are getting to be pretty hefty choices for "smallest"...
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