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09-29-2016, 10:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Abbotsford, British Columbia
Trailer: 2011 19'
Posts: 223
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Manning Park In the Cold
I wanted to try out the 19' in cold weather dry camping so I headed up to Manning Park, about 120 kilometres east of Chilliwack, this week. Dian didn't want to come as she hates cold nights and I am afraid I don't offer much warmth the way I used to. The days were sunny, in the mid teens, but once the sun set the cold came in rapidly. The campfire burned out around 8:30 PM and I went inside. I had a sleeping bag insert which is a great asset if you don't want to go through the contortions and gyrations of making the bed. On top of that I added a thick comforter and topped that off with a down-filled sleeping bag. I awoke around 3AM and checked the temperature. It was 3 degrees celsius in the trailer. When I got up around 6AM it was 1 degree. I turned on the furnace and crawled back into bed to wait for the temperature to rise.
There was a little frost on the ground but luckily all the water lines were functional.
Not wanting to press my luck for another night I headed home.
Some pictures are on my blog; Focused on Fauna (and a little flora)
I have the extra insulation package but no foam insulation on the bottom.
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09-29-2016, 10:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Maple Ridge, BC, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 17B;2012 Nissan Frontier SV 4
Posts: 701
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We were up at Mule Deer Campground (Manning Park) for one night on Sept 6. It was nice during the day. At night it got a bit chilly but I wore my fashionable night cap (buff).
I think you had it chillier then we did.
Larry
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09-29-2016, 10:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Trailer: 2020 Escape 17B "Voyager"
Posts: 2,661
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Okay, I'm going to stop complaining that it is chilly in my house at 71!
How quickly did the heater get it up to warm?
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09-29-2016, 10:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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I hit frost last night in the Cascades and turned on the furnace, it was warm within 10 minutes.
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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09-29-2016, 10:39 PM
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#5
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: paso robles, California
Trailer: ex Casita/ 2016 Escape 21 '16 TRD 4x4
Posts: 132
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We love the furnace in our 21- nice and quiet. Our Casita had one that worked equally well, but sounded like a express train coming thru-. Quite the difference. I haven't found anything to complain about except the Escape is harder to modify because everything is tucked in neatly and hidden.
Jerry
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09-29-2016, 10:39 PM
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#6
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: O town, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 "Lightning"
Posts: 1,467
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Older posts/threads have indicated camping with water in the pipes is OK below freezing as long as temps go +'ve in the daylight. I was fine to about -7C or so last year.
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09-29-2016, 10:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Area 51, New Mexico
Trailer: pondering.....
Posts: 728
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Fulica
I wanted to try out the 19' in cold weather dry camping so I headed up to Manning Park, about 120 kilometres east of Chilliwack, this week. Dian didn't want to come as she hates cold nights and I am afraid I don't offer much warmth the way I used to. The days were sunny, in the mid teens, but once the sun set the cold came in rapidly. The campfire burned out around 8:30 PM and I went inside. I had a sleeping bag insert which is a great asset if you don't want to go through the contortions and gyrations of making the bed. On top of that I added a thick comforter and topped that off with a down-filled sleeping bag. I awoke around 3AM and checked the temperature. It was 3 degrees celsius in the trailer. When I got up around 6AM it was 1 degree. I turned on the furnace and crawled back into bed to wait for the temperature to rise.
There was a little frost on the ground but luckily all the water lines were functional.
Not wanting to press my luck for another night I headed home.
Some pictures are on my blog; Focused on Fauna (and a little flora)
I have the extra insulation package but no foam insulation on the bottom.
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enjoyed the pics and commentary on your blog...so glad to not be a salmon...and thanks for the cold weather report for your Escape..plans for a similar 2017 setup as yours with extra insulation and no underside foam.
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09-29-2016, 10:47 PM
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#8
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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Around freezing is one thing and well below is another, to me, anyway. May have to open cabinets at night to get warm air to lines.
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"Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.... "
Emerson
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09-29-2016, 10:58 PM
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#9
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: O town, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 "Lightning"
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Absolutely Cathy, but that is not what the OP ran into.
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09-29-2016, 11:21 PM
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#10
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Abbotsford, British Columbia
Trailer: 2011 19'
Posts: 223
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Bobbie15; It took about 15 minutes for it to get to 15 degrees celsius.
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09-29-2016, 11:54 PM
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#11
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,210
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Our son Eric is finishing the last leg of the Pacific Crest Trail which terminates at E.C. Manning Park. If you see him approach it is because the trailer is familiar.
He is on the right with a hiking partner; we met them at McKenzie Pass near Sisters, OR earlier this month.
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09-30-2016, 12:03 AM
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#12
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Bellingham and Glacier, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15A
Posts: 2,051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossue
Our son Eric is finishing the last leg of the Pacific Crest Trail which terminates at E.C. Manning Park. If you see him approach it is because the trailer is familiar.
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I'm so impressed with anyone who does the Pacific Crest...especially if one drags a trailer along.
Truly... I am impressed with that accomplishment.
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2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
'93 Ford 150 XLT or
'22 GMC Acadia Denali
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09-30-2016, 02:10 AM
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#13
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Juneau, Alaska
Trailer: 2015 17A - Ready for more Maiden Voyages ....
Posts: 881
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Hi Len, Thank you for your stunning photographs! I live in Juneau, AK and the Fall bird migration has really started .... everyday I see new birds passing by my feeder. This morning there was an interesting article on NPR about White Pelicans showing up in Puget Sound (think they were talking about the Skagit River delta.... 200 miles north of their normal range.
I think having an Escape is the perfect platform to slow down and look deeper than the surface to 'discover' all kinds of fascinating wildlife.
Thank you again for your wonderful photography,
Tom
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09-30-2016, 11:41 AM
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#14
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Abbotsford, British Columbia
Trailer: 2011 19'
Posts: 223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossue
Our son Eric is finishing the last leg of the Pacific Crest Trail which terminates at E.C. Manning Park. If you see him approach it is because the trailer is familiar.
He is on the right with a hiking partner; we met them at McKenzie Pass near Sisters, OR earlier this month.
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A few years ago we gave a ride to 4 hikers who had just finished the Trail. They had been walking for months. We took them as far as Hope, Bc where they went straight to the bar.
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09-30-2016, 11:44 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Abbotsford, British Columbia
Trailer: 2011 19'
Posts: 223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StarvingHyena
Hi Len, Thank you for your stunning photographs! I live in Juneau, AK and the Fall bird migration has really started .... everyday I see new birds passing by my feeder. This morning there was an interesting article on NPR about White Pelicans showing up in Puget Sound (think they were talking about the Skagit River delta.... 200 miles north of their normal range.
I think having an Escape is the perfect platform to slow down and look deeper than the surface to 'discover' all kinds of fascinating wildlife.
Thank you again for your wonderful photography,
Tom
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Thanks Tom. That is what I like about the Escape. I can hook up and camp for a night or 2 without a lot of preparation. Might take off next week to for a couple of nights depending on the weather.
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09-30-2016, 11:50 AM
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#16
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Abbotsford, British Columbia
Trailer: 2011 19'
Posts: 223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryandLiz
We were up at Mule Deer Campground (Manning Park) for one night on Sept 6. It was nice during the day. At night it got a bit chilly but I wore my fashionable night cap (buff).
I think you had it chillier then we did.
Larry
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Hi Larry. I might have to get one of those buffs if I camp in these cold nights. I have always wanted to "drop my buff" and merge with another tribe.
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09-30-2016, 12:35 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Fulica
A few years ago we gave a ride to 4 hikers who had just finished the Trail. They had been walking for months. We took them as far as Hope, Bc where they went straight to the bar.
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Hi Len & Dian- they call folks like you Trail Angels You wouldn't believe how many are out there and what they do for these hikers. In Agua Dulce near Lancaster, CA there is a place called Hiker Heaven where PCT hikers can pitch their tents in someone's backyard and have their laundry done while they are fed- all for free! Other random acts of kindness abound for these folks and for those willing to share a ride for them back to trail after picking up packages of food or gear you can often hear some amazing tales.
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09-30-2016, 12:57 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Hudson, Ohio
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19 "Terrapin"
Posts: 427
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Wow! Stunning photos.
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09-30-2016, 01:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,123
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossue
Hi Len & Dian- they call folks like you Trail Angels You wouldn't believe how many are out there and what they do for these hikers.
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Nice to hear this is happening on the PCT. Same thing on the Appalachian Trail. My father did 2 months (NJ to NH) and encountered many acts of kindness. People gave him food, let him borrow a vehicle to go into town, or allowed him to stay on their property or in their home. We met someone at one of the trailheads and got his number. A little later in the trip my father needed some supplies and I mailed them to his house and this man drove north and delivered the items to my father at a road crossing. Thankfully the people that have a love and respect for the outdoors are usually also very nice.
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09-30-2016, 07:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Abbotsford, British Columbia
Trailer: 2011 19'
Posts: 223
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Originally Posted by mcdonner
Wow! Stunning photos.
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