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Old 04-19-2014, 09:05 AM   #21
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If you use common sense in what you do, which routes you travel, where you go etc, all will be fine. If you are a member of a drug cartel, then extra caution may be required.

Sure there is crime, but there is back home too. Earlier this week 5 young adults were senselessly murdered here in Calgary, something that has the whole community shocked and saddened. A true tragedy. By the same reasoning of not going to Mexico, then people should definitely avoid Calgary.

I will be taking with a good friend who was my best man at our wedding that spends 2-3 months every winter in Mexico. Many other of his and my friends do the same, with many of them driving down, or at least renting a vehicle for the time down there. Because of costs, they tend to stay away from touristy areas. Be interesting to get his take on this apparent fearfulness.

Other friends of ours that spend 4-6 months in an RV park are on their way back right now. They pull their 5th wheel there and back every time. I will also get their take on travelling there. I can't remember off the top of my head where they go either, but I think it is not too far from a more popular area for tourists.
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Old 04-19-2014, 09:12 AM   #22
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I think lots of these official 'warnings' are posted to eliminate any responsibility from governing parties should something ever happen. All it does is add fuel to anyones possible fears of travelling in Mexico.

I did a bit of a search, and it seems for the huge number of tourists in Mexico, that there is very little report of tragic incidents. I could not find any statistics though. Is seems when there has been an incident it tends to get more attention than all the local crimes of similar severity do.

Anyhow, I do realize that in order to enjoy something, you cannot have a fear of it. If Mexico frightens you, then it would not be the place to go. There are definitely lots of alternatives to take. There certainly is lots of beauty in Mexico.
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Old 04-19-2014, 10:46 AM   #23
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You can sugar coat this all you want Jim. Your crime is nothing compared to the US/Mexico border crime. I suspect the news and information you get that far up is filtered to protect tourism. This has nothing to do about Americans or Canadians. This about drug violence and lack of security. Up until last week I worked shoulder to shoulder with Mexican immigrants in the oilfields of Texas. I hear the experiences and concerns of those who have fled this violence. These are guys that know the dangers and the safest routes and methods just wanting to go home to visit their families. It seems pointless to advise you not to travel and camp with your trailer in Mexico at this time.
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:01 AM   #24
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David, you still don't address any issues with tourists. I don't plan on getting involved in the drug trade at this time.

I may live in Canada, but not sure if you have heard, we don't all live in igloos anymore, and we actually don't live that 'sheltered' of a life anymore. Heck, we even have the internets up here now.

But you are definitely right in that advising me to do something I would enjoy greatly is not necessary. But then, I am the weird guy who loves camping in areas with bears, and looks forward to viewing them.
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:56 AM   #25
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I am wondering if anyone has tried, or has known anyone who has tried going down with one of those "rv caravans" I've read about.

I tend towards not going down at all with a trailer. Of course, since we haven't got ours yet, and have Canada to focus on first it will be quite awhile before this sizzling internet debate becomes personally relevant.

It's good to hear both sides.
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Old 04-19-2014, 12:53 PM   #26
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Might as well jump in here to, I love Mexico and have spent time wondering around a few small towns and never felt the least bit afraid. In fact we found most people very nice and friendly. I would love to spend a winter in Mexico with my trailer, we are planning to go again this winter but don't think I can talk my better half into taking it. Obviously some caution should be used when traveling anywhere.

We read and follow a lot of blogs from people that travel in Mexico as well as having a relative with a place there and from what I have seen and heard some days I think its safer then some of our cities. The only downside I have is it would be nice to learn more spanish and this is a short coming on my part, Although I can order drinks and food.

As a side note the picture under my name is in Mexico.
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I may live in Canada, but not sure if you have heard, we don't all live in igloos anymore, and we actually don't live that 'sheltered' of a life anymore. Heck, we even have the internets up here now.

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I was going to make the same comment, you beat me to it.

Interesting thread for me. I've traveled the world extensively, even to places where local crime included "strangle muggings". How pleasant is that? But starting several years ago because of several tourist incidents in Mexico I said "never going to Mexico"

So I recently just returned from a fantastic time at Cabo San Jose in the Baja There are several RV parks in that area. Of course the thought crossed my mind that maybe, just maybe, a trip down the Baja might be very enjoyable. But, despite being here in the high latitudes I am aware of the other situations. At this point I'm leaning towards not likely but, never say never

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A few years ago the LA Times reported a police chief driving around in a stolen SUV. Lot of stolen vehicles down there. Taking your Escape to Mexico is like waving a red flag at a bull. Not exactly being low-key and blending in. Have to get Mexican insurance too, at least if you have US coverage. Those folks at AAA, etc. are pretty smart at risk assessment.

We honeymooned in Puerto Vallarta in '82 and was immediately struck by the fact that there were men in full army uniform with automatic weapons patrolling the tourist areas. Never wanted to go back-too many other places to go and not be worried about desperate people.
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Both Doug and Eileen and Dave and Sandy, due to their proximity to Mexico maybe prone to receiving local information from the authorities that those further north are protected from. Our newscasts are totally different in different areas of the country and from our neighbors north or south of us. I'd take someone's opinion who is located close to the area a lot more than that of your tour director. Thus their words of caution should be taken seriously, travel at your own risk and right now, south is highly risky. A lot of travel done by tourists to resorts like Cancun, Puerto Vallarta, even Jamaica, the local governments take extreme efforts to protect the tourist trade. Why, because of $$ it brings into their country. As long as one stays within the protected areas but to travel beyond the compound is highly risky. Thus traveling by caravan along their highways outside the protected resort areas could be dangerous and could be construed by locals as not really helping them, thus they can be resentful.
There is so much to see here in the US and in Canada without any needed distractions.
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Both Doug and Eileen and Dave and Sandy, due to their proximity to Mexico maybe prone to receiving local information from the authorities that those further north are protected from. Our newscasts are totally different in different areas of the country and from our neighbors north or south of us. I'd take someone's opinion who is located close to the area a lot more than that of your tour director. Thus their words of caution should be taken seriously, travel at your own risk and right now, south is highly risky. A lot of travel done by tourists to resorts like Cancun, Puerto Vallarta, even Jamaica, the local governments take extreme efforts to protect the tourist trade. Why, because of $$ it brings into their country. As long as one stays within the protected areas but to travel beyond the compound is highly risky. Thus traveling by caravan along their highways outside the protected resort areas could be dangerous and could be construed by locals as not really helping them, thus they can be resentful.
There is so much to see here in the US and in Canada without any needed distractions.
Jim I would travel MOST of Mexico at the drop of a hat and would not be worried. I think a lot of people are paranoid, we have always felt safe there. Maybe its just a Canadain thing... EH
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