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Old 01-18-2018, 05:53 PM   #1
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National Park Fees going up?

I have been seeing stories today about proposals of NP fees going up a considerable amount. Like from $30 to $70 a vehicle. I have a senior pass, so it may not affect me. I can understand increases, but more than double?
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Old 01-18-2018, 06:10 PM   #2
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If the Feds have the same philosophy as our Wisconsin state legislators, then they will expect the National Parks to be completely self sustaining financially. In Wisc, no other state money goes to funding the parks anymore, so entry and camping costs have to rise to try to maintain them.
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Old 01-18-2018, 06:18 PM   #3
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I have been seeing stories today about proposals of NP fees going up a considerable amount. Like from $30 to $70 a vehicle. I have a senior pass, so it may not affect me. I can understand increases, but more than double?
It's for 17 of the busier parks.
Here is an article from when they were first proposing it.

https://www.nps.gov/orgs/1207/11-21-...e-proposal.htm
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Even though we reside in Wisconsin , we camp in Minnesota. Iowa and Michigan State Parks . Wisconsin doesn't want our business or deserve our money.

For those members who live in the Midwest , Iowa has some beautiful State Parks with nice campgrounds and at a fair price.
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It's for 17 of the busier parks.
Here is an article from when they were first proposing it.

https://www.nps.gov/orgs/1207/11-21-...e-proposal.htm
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Old 01-18-2018, 06:42 PM   #6
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I think the parks have been bleeding for a long time. Like the post office and Amtrak they are expected to pay for themselves while being starved.
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The emphasis appears to be to shift users to the "private sector". Make the fees high as or higher than them. Same old scam. It's money, honey.
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It's a big increase from $30 to $70 for sure, but that's mitigated somewhat by the fact that we are talking about a 7 day pass, not a daily fee, and it will be a peak season increase, not year round. Also, 80 percent of the fees will be used at that particular park to improve facilities. The other 20 percent will be shared with other national parks.

I don't see it as a scam at all. Things cost money. Federal funding or budget priorities are a separate issue. One can argue the merits of whether or not the NPS should be fully funded (I believe it should), but that doesn't address the current reality the NPS faces. Unless the federal government decides to fully fund the operational and infrastructure costs of the NPS, fees will increase, or the facilities and services will degrade.
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I recently retired from the NPS after 30 years. I watched the real budgets adjusted for inflation continue to fall over the course of 20 of the 30 years.
Always good for photo ops with politicians, the parks have been woefully underfunded.
One park in Ohio where I worked, maintenance staff declined by 50 to 60 percent with more work and properties to maintain. I was glad to retire as my it work went from a 3 person operation to one.

I won’t get into politics on this very wonderful forum, but read about the mass resignations of the advisory council for the nps and draw your own conclusions.

I myself will be upping my advocacy of our marvelous resources and urge all of us who utilize the resources to pay attention and support the public resources that we all enjoy.

Our 21 will be heading out this summer for cross country number 2 as well as visiting old friends in NPS sites.
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Well said Oldwave and thank you for your service.
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