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Old 10-24-2015, 08:46 PM   #21
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I had the pleasure of meeting Jim and Evon Oliver a number of years ago when they brought three Oliver trailers to the Oregon Gathering. Nice people. BUT, the owners call a lot of the items in their trailers as "jewelry." Honestly, does a marine-grade stainless steel hook hold a baseball cap better than an Umbra or Command Hook ? I think part of the expense of an Oliver is not so much in the build, but all those shiny extras.


One thing that Oliver is doing that I really wish ETI would look at, is the furnace. Both trailers are tubed... but Oliver runs the heat outlets through the floor and has heat registers rather than ONE heat outlet. More of home heating than RV. Hummm.
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:50 PM   #22
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Agree with you Bill; Escape is in the sweet spot with cost vs. value. Oliver does have some nice looking features, notably their double-step. Reminds me of the 1Up bike rack in build quality.
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Old 10-24-2015, 09:36 PM   #23
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One thing that Oliver is doing that I really wish ETI would look at, is the furnace. Both trailers are tubed... but Oliver runs the heat outlets through the floor and has heat registers rather than ONE heat outlet. More of home heating than RV. Hummm.
The Atwood 8012 furnace previously used in Escapes had unusually low electrical power demand because it had a low-power fan, which was adequate because it was a direct-discharge furnace (meaning no ducts to push air through). The AFSAD12 furnace now used in Escapes is installed in a non-ducted configuration (thus the one outlet, and the inlet surrounding the outlet), but is available as a ducted furnace as well (AFSD12), at the cost of 3.4 amps instead of 2.4 amps of electrical current. I would link to information from the manufacturer, but they still don't have it on their websites (either Atwood Mobile or Ask For Atwood). The unducted and ducted options can be seen in the manual in this forum's document collection.

While an Oliver Legacy has a "basement" containing tanks and other hardware, the portion of the floor of an Escape between the frame rails is flooring directly on plywood directly on the fiberglass "tub" directly on the frame... there is nowhere for under-floor ducts. There is some space in the "pontoon" sections on each side, but ducts in there would not be accessible. I think that a ducted furnace installation would require the ducts to run in cabinets - perhaps forward and aft outlets from a centrally located furnace (which is where an Escape furnace is now), with the return air directly into the furnace.

I agree that if the ducting can be handled, ducted would be desirable. Ducted heat is normal in larger RVs.
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Old 10-24-2015, 09:57 PM   #24
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Too circulate air in the 5.0, especially into the loft, I plan on installing a circulating fan. One that can easily be redirected. Or possibly two. Caframo makes some nice marine 12V ones that draw well less than 1/2 amp. These would be beneficial for heating or cooling.

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Old 10-24-2015, 10:53 PM   #25
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You have to take what some folks say on any forum with a grain of salt. Buckets of water coming down from condensation? No way. That is, if you turn on the Maxx Fan and crack a window or two. That's just being silly. My suspicion is that the poster wanted to set up his comment along the lines of "never happens with an Oliver with the double wall hull."

They're fine units, and built like a brick house, to be sure - but everything comes at a price. I still think the Escape finds the sweet spot between cost, features and quality, and nothing I've seen in the fiberglass world so far has changed my opinion.
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Old 10-24-2015, 10:57 PM   #26
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Too circulate air in the 5.0, especially into the loft, I plan on installing a circulating fan. One that can easily be redirected. Or possibly two. Caframo makes some nice marine 12V ones that draw well less than 1/2 amp. These would be beneficial for heating or cooling.

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It has been my experience that a fan is not necessary to circulate heat or cool air into the loft. Heat rises up there very well and the A/C readily blows up. Or if you open the loft Windows and use the Maxxfan you get plenty of cool air coming in. We just returned from a trip to the mountains of northern Georgia. The last two mornings it was 38 and 36 degrees (Farenheit) respectively. Not much above freezing. I ran a small ceramic heater on the low setting (1000w vs 1500w on high setting) and the 5.0 stayed at 72-75 degrees F. I had to kick the covers off because it warmer than I like for sleeping. And the A/C has kept the loft cool enough in hot, humid weather.
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:31 AM   #27
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I suppose if you were as dumb as a post, keep all the windows and hatches sealed and boiled a kettle non-stop you could get BUCKETS of water streaming down the walls. Really

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Old 10-25-2015, 03:15 AM   #28
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Too circulate air in the 5.0, especially into the loft, I plan on installing a circulating fan. One that can easily be redirected. Or possibly two. Caframo makes some nice marine 12V ones that draw well less than 1/2 amp. These would be beneficial for heating or cooling.

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Hi: Jim Bennett... The MaxxFan in our 5.0TA runs like a ceiling fan with the lid closed unlike the one in our 5.0 that had a shut off switch for when the lid was closed. Alf
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Old 10-25-2015, 06:34 AM   #29
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Agree with you Bill; Escape is in the sweet spot with cost vs. value. Oliver does have some nice looking features, notably their double-step. Reminds me of the 1Up bike rack in build quality.
Oliver's sales manager, Robert Partee, told me they had to make that stout aluminum double-step themselves, since they couldn't find one to buy. I'm fine with what is commercially available.
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Old 10-25-2015, 08:07 AM   #30
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Regarding condensation. We use our 17b a total of 9 weeks last winter in temps as low as -23 degrees F. With heat and the top vent open about 1" there was no condensation on the walls. Moderate condensation formed on both the double pane and single pane windows once temps fell below, say 25 degrees. The worse condensation (frost) occured on the metal window frames as they are apparently an effecient thermal bridge to the outside. We have covered all the window frames with insulating tape to mitigate this in the future. Our solution to the condensation is wait until the frost melted in the morning and then wipe the wet surfaces down. Bit of a chore but no big deal.
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