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Old 03-09-2016, 01:02 PM   #1
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Busting the toilet valve

I towed up to the 4 corners and into Utah last week. It was a solo trip, a remedy for cabin fever. Permission granted by D.O. (Dear One). Arrive 4 PM at Goulding’s, well known red-rock country resort/campground complex next to Monument Valley. It dates from back to when FDR was in the White House. Wanted to walk in Hondo’s Monument Valley footsteps. Yes he bunked there. Also, needed to see Monument Valley in the snow.

Goulding’s is excellent. The campground, near empty, meant I had my pick of spots. At Goulding’s, went for the best view, full hookups, electric, cable TV, WiFi, and a connection to city water, $33.00. Why not? Indulged myself in a little out of season luxury. I could even shower in the trailer if I wanted to but of course there was no need to get crazy. All systems were go. But then I turned on the water heater and the pump. That’s when water came blasting out from behind the Thetford Aqua Magic V.

The ole training kicked in. I quickly shut the pump down and then, after the dinette seat lid was raised, I engaged my water feed cut-off. That PEX-line brass valve I put in many months ago finally paid off. Toilet now isolated and dry. The Aqua Magic V became a functional manual feed from a 3 gallon jug. Must look on the bright side of this, I thought. Was I really ever going to wash dishes in the sink? Lesson learned: After the February Quartzsite rally I never re-winterized. That subsequent 3 nights of freeze we had at home made my lazy self pay a price.* Now, must face the daunting task of pulling the toilet for a Thetford valve replacement.

The valve was not as expensive ($42.99) as I feared. Thank goodness for this forum, where I found FMLNM’s post which took much of the scare out of the process ahead. **

My visit into Navaho owned Monument Valley land was also not as expensive as I thought it would be. A 4-day pass cost me $20, but of course I was alone. Early next morning I self-drove the well maintained 14 mile dirt loop through the place. In the gift shop bought D.O. a charming, authentic Navaho pot, from Acoma Pueblo, 50% off. Oh, there was no snow.

Any other dismay? Coffee. The restaurant in the very nice new low profile Navaho visitor’s center restricted their Continental breakfast to hotel guests. Although in the gift shop there were plenty of posters of a determined Hondo standing feet shoulder width apart, finger on the trigger of a Winchester, of all the cowboy hats they had for sale there none were the actual replica of his iconic felt crown. That’s just wrong.

It would be hard to visualize what he and John Ford encountered in the 1940’s when they drove the dusty trail to make them movies. The valley is I guess as sacred as it was but now you approach it from a paved parking lot of curbs and sidewalks high on a bluff where you look down upon a packaged chessboard of red monoliths.

On the drive back to Goulding’s I got my coffee and a great breakfast burrito at a Navaho roach coach.

* As Larry would say, “…boy am I dumb.”
** Thanks, Fran and Dave
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:58 PM   #2
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How ironic you should post this now. I spent all day yesterday, trying to plan a trip to Arches, Canyonlands and Monument Valley in June/July but came away with the thought that camping there in the heat of summer may not be the best idea. Now that I look at your photos, maybe Fall or next Spring is a better bet. Looks like you had a grand time ... minus the valve problem.
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:02 PM   #3
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Sorry to hear about the toilet valve. At least it's the more pleasant end of the toilet to work on...

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... Although in the gift shop there were plenty of posters of a determined Hondo standing feet shoulder width apart, finger on the trigger of a Winchester, of all the cowboy hats they had for sale there none were the actual replica of his iconic felt crown. Thatís just wrong.
Yeah, "authentic" and "in the gift shop" are often not aligned. I wouldn't wear a western hat very often, but I would occasionally if I had one, and so I've looked at them. The price is enough to encourage very careful consideration, and I never end up buying one. A western wear store is probably a better source than any gift shop, because there is actually a huge variety in these hats, so it takes a good-sized store to have an adequate selection. A local store's lineup: Lammle's Western Wear & Tack - Felts; the $100 ones aren't very good.
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Nice getaway Myron. I agree about Gouldings. We enjoyed it there. Another advantage of a late winter/early spring visit to MV is that you're less likely to get the high winds caused by the heat/convection of the desert. We had fine red dust in every nook and cranny for days afterwards!
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Glad our experience with replacing the toilet valve was helpful! It's probably easier to get to in your 19 than it was in the 5.0 Classic. I think there might be a bit more space between the wall and the commode in yours.
It sure is nice to have the shutoff valve and be able to proceed as planned with a manual toilet. We learned the hard way with our previous Scamp and it was one of the first mods we made to our Escape. Nice to know that ETI now offers that in the build (as an option I think).
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Thanks for the post Myron.

Quick link to the talked about FMLNM post to help the searching impaired.
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Glad our experience with replacing the toilet valve was helpful! It's probably easier to get to in your 19 than it was in the 5.0 Classic. I think there might be a bit more space between the wall and the commode in yours.
It sure is nice to have the shutoff valve and be able to proceed as planned with a manual toilet. We learned the hard way with our previous Scamp and it was one of the first mods we made to our Escape. Nice to know that ETI now offers that in the build (as an option I think).
You can have it on your build sheet as we did for the 21', after having to replace ours at over $100 by a shop.

Myron, a Navajo pot from Acoma? I don't know much about pots but wondering about that one.
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Does anyone have information on the shut off valve? It sounds like an easy project for the 19' and I'd rather install it and not need it as opposed to need it and not have it!
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Does anyone have information on the shut off valve? It sounds like an easy project for the 19' and I'd rather install it and not need it as opposed to need it and not have it!
Find a place in your pex line where you can gain access just before it goes to your toilet. Cut the line and install a shutoff valve...there are a variety of types and connectors. Here is one and or check out the link to our original post about this. I think another style is shown there.
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