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Old 10-04-2013, 06:52 PM   #1
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Ceiling lining in rear of a 17B

Two questions about the interior vinyl liner. We have the insulation package and the ceiling liner toward the rear of the trailer is not attached to the fiberglass in the middle- behind the air conditioner. I am wondering it this is due to glue letting go from the Reflectix and/or between it and the fiberglass or if this is how it is made? It is not a real noticeable sag but I can move it up about an inch before I can feel it contact the fiberglass. I am just hoping that it isn't an indication that that whole liner portion is going to continue to sag further?

Second - camping in the cool fall weather always brings out those moisture gremlins. I noticed some in our rearmost overhead compartment. When I felt around up there I found about a 1 - 1.5" strip where the fiberglass is uncovered by any insulation or liner. It is right where the liner should meet the front of the cabinet. It had quite a bit of condensation in this colder weather so for now I just stuffed some microfiber towels in to plug the gap. When I get home I will try to glue Refectix up there. Does anyone else have that gap up there?

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Old 10-04-2013, 11:13 PM   #2
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To cut down the amount of condensation run the MaxFan on low day and night.
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Old 10-05-2013, 06:48 AM   #3
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Condensation is a big problem in all molded towables of any brand. Much less of a problem in an Escape with the extra insulation. I wouldn't use microfibre towels, that doesn't solve the initial problem. I'd replace the missing Reflectix. You can buy it at a big box hardware store. You can also leave your cabinet doors open, or slightly open. You may need air movement in those areas.

Has the sagging liner just started or have you just not noticed it before? Sagging liners are not normal! There again, I'd fix it. Right now you don't know "why" it's happened. You know it's not going to fix itself and it would bug me. YMMV.
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:24 AM   #4
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Yep - already doing all those things and like I said, we are on the road so the microfiber towels are just a stopgap method to help absorb extra moisture and provide at least a minimum of insulation so the bare cold fiberglass is not exposed. I am planning to glue Reflectix up there when we get home. The Reflectix should work well as it is also a vapor/moisture barrier.

Sag - I am not sure about how long it has been that way. It is not really visually noticeable I only noticed it when I pushed up on it while doing something else. And given then design I currently have not idea how I could solve it. I will email Reace and see what he has to say. i am just curious if anyone else's trailer is that way and maybe the way the liner is molded it is not a problem.
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:46 AM   #5
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We noticed the gap you are speaking of in the inside edge of all our upper cabinets, fairly soon after purchase. We haven't done anything about it yet assuming "Oh well, I guess it's just the way it comes." Because we live in wet Victoria and also cook inside the trailer, I am paranoid about condensation and am constantly checking for wetness. None there yet that I've noticed but I am very aware of the coldness that comes through those spaces.

A hidden place to also check when any condensation is noticed is above the windows under the valances. It's hard to get at, but on rainy days when we are trapped inside that is one of the first places I notice wetness. (Have to feel up and under the valance.) Because it's hidden I am worried that if not dealt with it will start to mildew, so I take the valances off to dry it there. The problem is mostly over the front side dinette windows in our 19. The condensation happens when it rains even though we run our Maxx Fan continuously. Not breathing is not an option

Haven't spoken to Reace yet because we tend to be procrastinators and figured it's just the way it comes. Condensation was always a big issue with our un-insulated Trillium; we had thought with this expensive fancy insulation package we could avoid that. Please let us know what he says!
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:16 PM   #6
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I wonder if you could ventilate that space behind the valences. I noticed that if you leave the blinds up, you have less wetness on the windows, air is able to circulate. Perhaps allowing air to move up over the windows would eliminate the issue. I know using the condensate mat for the mattress allows air to circulate and the walls are no longer wet around the mattress. I guess we need to somehow keep the air from being trapped in order to deal with condensation, that means more vents in areas.
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To reduce the condensation--maxx fan--air flow in or out?
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drawing out, with another window cracked for a source,
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:08 PM   #9
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To reduce the condensation--maxx fan--air flow in or out?
It really does not matter, whatever is more comfortable for you, either way transfers the same amount of air out of the trailer. Like Jim, I would likely draw out there, that way you can crack whatever window you want for ventilation, over the bed if at the dinette, or reversed if you are in bed. With it pulling in at the fan, the area below would be cooler. So whichever works best for you, the key is to transfer a bit of the moist air out somehow.
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We only have the two side windows at the rear that open-so would be the one at the foot of the bed probably..

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