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12-14-2017, 03:46 PM
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Location: Victoria, British Columbia
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Front Stabilizer Jacks/ 5 TA
Can anyone tell me what to use to lubricant/grease the two retractable front stabilizer jacks on the 5 TA. I assume a light automotive grease and that they do indeed require periodic maintenance?
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12-14-2017, 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark James
Can anyone tell me what to use to lubricant/grease the two retractable front stabilizer jacks on the 5 TA. I assume a light automotive grease and that they do indeed require periodic maintenance?
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I don't have the 5th wheel, but I don't like using grease to lube any of the stabilizers. I just clean and spray them periodically with a dry lubricant. It doesn't attract dirt and gunk like grease does.
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12-14-2017, 04:33 PM
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Same as Robert, I've been spraying them with silicone.
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12-14-2017, 06:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark James
Can anyone tell me what to use to lubricant/grease the two retractable front stabilizer jacks on the 5 TA.
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I wouldn't call the landing gear "stabilizer" jacks - it may confuse people.
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Originally Posted by Mark James
I assume a light automotive grease and that they do indeed require periodic maintenance?
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Did the trailer come with a manual for the landing gear jacks? They're probably Atwoods.
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Originally Posted by rbryan4
I don't have the 5th wheel, but I don't like using grease to lube any of the stabilizers.
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The equivalent on the 19' would be the tongue jack, rather than the stabilizers.
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Originally Posted by padlin
Same as Robert, I've been spraying them with silicone.
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Which: the landing gear or the C-Jack stabilizers?
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12-14-2017, 06:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
Which: the landing gear or the C-Jack stabilizers?
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Doesn't matter, I use it on both.
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12-14-2017, 06:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
Doesn't matter, I use it on both.
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Same. Whether it's motorized gear or the stabilizers or whatever, I like the dry spray instead of grease. Works great on hinges and bike chains too.
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12-14-2017, 07:59 PM
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Dry Silicon spray it is. Thx everyone.
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12-14-2017, 09:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark James
Dry Silicon spray it is. Thx everyone.
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The dry lube I use (the brand is CRC) on both the stabilizers and the landing gear is not silicon based, it is PTFE or Moly and after application, it leaves a film on the surface. I would think that silicon would essentially evaporate, thereby failing to be persistent. Incidentally, if either landing jack ever fails to operate, one of the first things to check is its ground wire. To access it, the side panel in the propane compartment has to be removed and the ground is attached by a slotted bolt/screw on the top of the assembly. The screw can loosen resulting in a lost ground. Because of its relatively inaccessible location, tightening it could be described as a “done by feel” operation.
Don’t ask how I know this!
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12-14-2017, 09:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark James
Dry Silicon spray it is. Thx everyone.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C&G in FL
The dry lube I use (the brand is CRC) on both the stabilizers and the landing gear is not silicon based, it is PTFE or Moly.
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Me too. It's got PTFE in it, not silicone. I think it's called Super Lube.
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12-14-2017, 09:31 PM
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Thanks for this. Will look for it and especially grateful for the grounding tip!
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12-15-2017, 05:36 AM
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Landing gear failing to work
Just a quick question more or less related to this subject.
If the landing gear fails to work and has to be done manually, what does one use?
I know where the access hatches are for them, but what “tool” do you use? I don’t recall ever seeing anything, but thought maybe now is a good time to ask,
Thanks
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12-15-2017, 05:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chapitre
Just a quick question more or less related to this subject.
If the landing gear fails to work and has to be done manually, what does one use?
I know where the access hatches are for them, but what “tool” do you use? I don’t recall ever seeing anything, but thought maybe now is a good time to ask,
Thanks
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ETI includes a small attachment, maybe 6-inches long to accomplish manual operation. Mine was in the deep storage bin in front of the door. I will try to get a photo in a little while when the sun comes up and post it but I would suggest you look in the bottom of that bin. This is testing my memory, but I believe that was also where I found the crank for the stabilizer jacks. As an aside, manual cranking is slower than extra thick, cold molasses in January at the North Pole. And you have to alternate side to side to raise or lower each side to a height relatively close to one another. So if it is ever required, having a battery powered drill with variable speed would be a big plus.
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12-15-2017, 06:39 AM
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Here is the promised photo. Now my memory is really playing games with me. When I had my Shoddily Constructed And Maintenance Plagued 19, it had manual jacks which were operated with a crank similar to the stabilizer crank. I did cut mine off in order to use it with a drill. It is possible that ETI did not supply this attachment (another senior moment). It does, however, terminate with the standard fitting used on landing gear jacks. These cranks are available from Amazon and probably any RV dealer selling 5th Wheels, and could be used as is or cut off to be used with a drill.
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12-15-2017, 07:08 AM
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Hummm, I thought we were to use the same jack crank as we use on the rear stabilizers to lower the front landing gear in case of an electrical failure. If it's something else, I didn't get it!
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12-15-2017, 07:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chapitre
Just a quick question more or less related to this subject.
If the landing gear fails to work and has to be done manually, what does one use?
I know where the access hatches are for them, but what “tool” do you use? I don’t recall ever seeing anything, but thought maybe now is a good time to ask,
Thanks
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Here's the one out of my 2014. Donna, not the same tool as the stabilizers.
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12-15-2017, 07:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
Here's the one out of my 2014. Donna, not the same tool as the stabilizers.
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Well, then what does the one for the rear stabilizers look like? I thought that was the one I used... I'm so confused, not enough coffee this morning...
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12-15-2017, 07:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Well, then what does the one for the rear stabilizers look like? I thought that was the one I used... I'm so confused, not enough coffee this morning...
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It looks similar in shape. The business end of the stabilizer crank has a hex socket. The landing gear crank’s business end has a slot. Take a close look at the picture I posted; enlarge it if necessary. And have more coffee; you cannot have too much!
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12-15-2017, 10:11 AM
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Like Donna I assumed you used the same as the one for the rear stabilizers. Then, I noticed along the way that maybe it was another “tool”. I definitely never got the one in the photo with the trailer. The two things that came was the one for the rear stabilizers and the long hook to release the awning. Have never seen one of these that you refer to.
I’ll have to contact ETI, or is this something you can buy at a camping world type place?
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12-15-2017, 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chapitre
Like Donna I assumed you used the same as the one for the rear stabilizers. Then, I noticed along the way that maybe it was another “tool”. I definitely never got the one in the photo with the trailer. The two things that came was the one for the rear stabilizers and the long hook to release the awning. Have never seen one of these that you refer to.
I’ll have to contact ETI, or is this something you can buy at a camping world type place?
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Sounds like I'm in good company! I guess I didn't receive anything to work with the landing gear. Oh man, glad this was posted BEFORE I needed it.
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12-15-2017, 10:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Sounds like I'm in good company! I guess I didn't receive anything to work with the landing gear. Oh man, glad this was posted BEFORE I needed it.
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Hi: Donna D... Our manual landing gear "Crank" was found in the bottom of the forward pass. side hold. We rarely use that compartment as it is behind the opened door. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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