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Old 09-21-2015, 11:00 AM   #1
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Had a puncture flat this weekend and took BlackJack in for 2 new tires and ended with 4 new ones as a "safety measure". Although one one flat, it is always recommended to replace both tires on the same axle, this I knew 2 new ones were in store. But the originals were approaching 3 years on age which is 50% so I opted for 4 new ones which hopefully be good for another 5 years.
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Old 09-21-2015, 11:25 AM   #2
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Although one one flat, it is always recommended to replace both tires on the same axle.
Why would this be, on an axle where the wheels turn independently? I could see on a drive axle, where a difference in diameter might affect the drive train a bit.
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Old 09-21-2015, 12:15 PM   #3
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Since one tire would be new and the other used, different treads, different circumferences, all could lead to change in stability.
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Old 09-21-2015, 02:31 PM   #4
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I guess you should never rotate your tires then, as one will always have less wear than the others?
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I am thinking you might have had a salesman who hadn't made his quota yet, Jim.

I find it real hard to believe that stability of the trailer would be affected. Am I missing something?

You could have rotated the spare on, and used the new one as the spare.
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Or deflate the new tire to match the old.
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Old 09-21-2015, 03:39 PM   #7
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My tires were made in early 2013, so in 6 months they would have been 3 years, for $200 more I'll have all new and good for another 5 years versus having to replace 2 tires in 2 years, plus it is a selling plus if I do decide to get that 5.0, new tires and bearings repacked, just like new.......
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... plus it is a selling plus WHEN I do decide to get that 5.0.
Edited for accuracy.
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Ha, Ha, from the quiet one.....
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Guilty, as charged.
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I was told the same thing as Jim in that you should change both tires on a tandem axle trailer. Both tires need to be identical IE Same Mfg -same size -same tread depth -same inflation pressure. Jim's concern with safety over cost is laudable in my book
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Thanks Steve,
This was my first flat in over 40 years and I do not want to repeat it, if possible. One thing to happen in your home town, but on the road with 2 dogs, not a pleasant scene.
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I believe the saying goes replace both tires on the same side, not the same axle.

This is from Discount tires website.

If a tire fails on a tandem axle trailer, you should replace both tires on that side. The remaining tire is likely to have been subjected to excessive loading.

Trailer Tire Facts & Information | Trailer Tire Applications | Discount Tire
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another reason to replace all 4......to prevent you from going in circles with 2 new and 2 old tires on opposite sides of the trailer.......
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Old 09-21-2015, 06:09 PM   #15
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Good article, it also states 3-5 years and 5-10,000 miles replacement time/mileage, both of which I will have exceeded real soon.
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I believe the saying goes replace both tires on the same side, not the same axle.

This is from Discount tires website.

If a tire fails on a tandem axle trailer, you should replace both tires on that side. The remaining tire is likely to have been subjected to excessive loading.
Now that does make some sense to me, especially if you towed a long ways on just one tire.
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I believe the saying goes replace both tires on the same side, not the same axle.

This is from Discount tires website.

If a tire fails on a tandem axle trailer, you should replace both tires on that side. The remaining tire is likely to have been subjected to excessive loading.

Trailer Tire Facts & Information | Trailer Tire Applications | Discount Tire
I am glad you confirmed that because I was beginning to wonder what I had seen.
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Good article, it also states 3-5 years and 5-10,000 miles replacement time/mileage...
If anyone wonders why some of us think that either "Special Trailer" tires are the worst pieces of round rubber crap ever sold for use on the road , or trailer tires sellers are the greediest businesses around, read this from that article (the source of Jim's comment, above):
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The mileage expectation of a trailer tire is 5,000 to 12,000 miles.
If the tires on a motor vehicle - any motor vehicle with four or more wheels - ate low-performance tires that fast, buyers would probably storm back into the tire store and demand their money back. Ultra-sticky barely street legal racing tires last that long... and trailer tires have the performance of a 1970's economy sedan tire.

Maybe it's just alarmist sales promotion at Discount Tire.
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I guess you do get what you pay for, the 4 new tires will cost around $300, about what one new tire will be on the Ram with 20" wheels/tires.....
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I guess you do get what you pay for, the 4 new tires will cost around $300, about what one new tire will be on the Ram with 20" wheels/tires.....
Hi: cpaharley2008... What brand did you buy and did you save the hex head bolt that you picked out of the tire? Alf
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