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Old 06-19-2016, 09:44 PM   #141
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...of course if your hiking the mountains above the snow line all you sometimes need to carry is a tin cup....

...Unless the snow is pink. Little known factoid: there's a fungus that grows on some glaciers that turns the snow pink because the fungus produces phenolphthalein as a metabolic byproduct. You might remember phenolphthalein from chemistry class as a pH indicator. It is also a powerful laxative, and is unfazed by boiling ;-)
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Old 06-20-2016, 01:05 AM   #142
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There are experts who now argue that we have taken the idea that everything has to be sterile to a dangerous level .

I agree wholeheartedly Steve. One of the reasons I believe we grew up healthy with very little illness or visits to the Doctor was that we played outside, got muddy and dirty, ate unprocessed and unrefrigerated food, and were exposed to all sorts of things that built up our immunity. The lives of many people today are completely insulated from such things.

Having said that, I can't go with drinking the holding tank water. Not because of any health concerns, but because of the taste. When I was a kid I didn't know the difference, and was thrilled to drink from an old rubber hose.



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Old 06-20-2016, 02:50 AM   #143
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sanitizing tank and lines

My concern continues to be that people be diligent in properly sanitizing their trailer's water supply system. And if their trailer has sat in storage for a long time with water stagnating in the fresh water tank, do an extra good job cleaning it.

I agree that we need not live in a sterile environment, but drinking from a tank that hasn't been properly maintained is a risk to people who don't have a good immune response to germs. It would take a lot of bacteria or algae to affect the taste of the water, so don't rely on that for how clean your water is.

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Old 06-20-2016, 02:29 PM   #144
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sanitizing tank and lines

I agree Bob. I just got done bleaching and rinsing our system. Robert for the water we drink from the tank, we run it thru a Pur filter pitcher and neither of us can discern any taste. Also we never put any water in the tank without running it thru an RV Carbon filter first.

Maybe we both just have poor tastebuds!

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Old 06-20-2016, 02:52 PM   #145
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After having my 19' for about 3yrs, any water stored in the freshwater tank still takes on a plastic taste after a few days in the tank, even if we sanitize the tanks in advance with a bleach solution. Knowing this, we try to refill our freshwater tanks every 2-3 days when using the trailer. Keeps the water fresher and more drinkable. I am hoping that this taste issue will eventually fade away.
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Old 06-20-2016, 03:25 PM   #146
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After having my 19' for about 3yrs, any water stored in the freshwater tank still takes on a plastic taste after a few days in the tank, even if we sanitize the tanks in advance with a bleach solution. Knowing this, we try to refill our freshwater tanks every 2-3 days when using the trailer. Keeps the water fresher and more drinkable. I am hoping that this taste issue will eventually fade away.
I've often wondered why water ,milk , fruit juice and soda pop come in plastic jugs and PEX is used for most domestic water lines yet the product they contain do not taste like plastic . Maybe RV manufacturers use a different plastic for their fresh water tanks or maybe it's all in my imagination ?.
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I've often wondered why water ,milk , fruit juice and soda pop come in plastic jugs and PEX is used for most domestic water lines yet the product they contain do not taste like plastic . Maybe RV manufacturers use a different plastic for their fresh water tanks or maybe it's all in my imagination ?.
The plastic used for beverage containers is usually PET (polyethylene terephthalate). PEX is cross-linked polyethylene. I think freshwater tanks are usually polyethylene as well, although they could be polypropylene and some are even ABS. PET and polyethylene are not the same, despite the similarity in the name. The issue is probably that few products are pure polyethylene (or other polymer), and trace additives could be an issue.

Another possible issue would be the vinyl (PVC) hoses which are normally used in RVs where flexibility is needed, such as from the freshwater tank to the pump, and (hopefully but often not) at the pump discharge.
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We bring bottled water for drinking. I would like to know how to get debris (pipe dope?)out of the line so we do not need to constantly removing the areators because they are clogged. We put in a new water pump because it ran constantly, we needed to turn it off at the main switch. We have flushed the hot water tank twice, used a special tool for rinsing the second time. Got lots of sand and pretty good sizes of blue plastic. We were surprised at how much a 2 month old anode could break down. We have used the gravity drain to empty fresh water tanks, but I don't think the hole is low enough or large enough to flush debris. We are beginning to think the source of debris may be coming from the hot water.
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We bring bottled water for drinking. I would like to know how to get debris (pipe dope?)out of the line so we do not need to constantly removing the areators because they are clogged. We put in a new water pump because it ran constantly, we needed to turn it off at the main switch. We have flushed the hot water tank twice, used a special tool for rinsing the second time. Got lots of sand and pretty good sizes of blue plastic. We were surprised at how much a 2 month old anode could break down. We have used the gravity drain to empty fresh water tanks, but I don't think the hole is low enough or large enough to flush debris. We are beginning to think the source of debris may be coming from the hot water.
I doubt what you are finding is pipe dope, as none would be used on PEX water lines. There could be some we bits of plastic though from your failing pump? With new tap installs we always remove the aerator and run the lines until we know they are clear. If you are breaking down the anode that fast with the water you use, I would bet there is a lot of that getting into the system, though that is all downstream of the water tank. Could you not just take the drain valve out of the water tank to drain it to get any larger bits out. I would doubt though there is much in there unless somehow introduced, but it would be interesting if you drained it through a fine mesh to see what you find.
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We bring bottled water for drinking. I would like to know how to get debris (pipe dope?)out of the line so we do not need to constantly removing the areators because they are clogged. We put in a new water pump because it ran constantly, we needed to turn it off at the main switch. We have flushed the hot water tank twice, used a special tool for rinsing the second time. Got lots of sand and pretty good sizes of blue plastic. We were surprised at how much a 2 month old anode could break down. We have used the gravity drain to empty fresh water tanks, but I don't think the hole is low enough or large enough to flush debris. We are beginning to think the source of debris may be coming from the hot water.
Have you flushed out the hot water tank? We get a lot of what I think must be calcium from hard water that builds up in the bottom of ours. I use one of these Hot Water Tank Rinser and flush the chunks out at least once a year.
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