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Old 12-27-2017, 06:50 PM   #1
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Warming space under dinette benches

We live in our Escape 21, so will not be winterizing it. We will stick to the south this winter, so I expect quite a few below freezing overnights and maybe a couple of freezing days in a row.

I would like to install some vent holes into the area under the dinette benches to insure the piping on the driver's side and the sodas we store under the passenger side don't freeze. Right now I use a couple of small 2x4 blocks to lift the seat overnight, but it is inconvenient when we want to use the benches.

Has anyone cut vents into the space under their dinette benches? If so, where did you cut them and what did you use to cover them?
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Old 12-27-2017, 06:55 PM   #2
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We live in our Escape 21, so will not be winterizing it. We will stick to the south this winter, so I expect quite a few below freezing overnights and maybe a couple of freezing days in a row.

I would like to install some vent holes into the area under the dinette benches to insure the piping on the driver's side and the sodas we store under the passenger side don't freeze. Right now I use a couple of small 2x4 blocks to lift the seat overnight, but it is inconvenient when we want to use the benches.

Has anyone cut vents into the space under their dinette benches? If so, where did you cut them and what did you use to cover them?
I used these but for a different purpose. I'm trying to keep humidity from affecting stuff since I live in a high humidity state.
They make larger ones and smaller ones too but these seem to give me good airflow.

https://ventmastersstore.com/collect...tic-vent-brown
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Old 12-27-2017, 07:01 PM   #3
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I have not needed them in the trailer but I have used air duct return grills for other purposes. HD/Lowes carries them in a variety of sizes.
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:39 PM   #5
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I would use your standard tan or brown plastic floor forced air heating vent. They come in two sizes, are light, cheap and have a open and closed position...to keep the bugs out in the summer.
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Old 12-27-2017, 10:35 PM   #6
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I think one at the bottom as far away from your feet as possible and one at the top as close to the heat source as possible . The cold air will fall out on its own and draw the warm air into the top, where as no fan will be required . The round ones should blend well.
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Old 12-28-2017, 06:29 AM   #7
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Personally, I would get some of the foam tube pipe insulators they sell at Lowe’s/Home Depot/almost any hardware chain and not worry about cutting vents. Pex plumbing has the ability to expand without being damaged by freezing, and I believe that it would have to be well below freezing for an extended period of time to get cold enough under the dinette benches to cause the problems you envision. I also suspect that if full timing, to will be in the southern states during the winter months rather than near Glacier National Park. If, however, you are into winter activities and want to camp in the snow belt, I’m not sure an Escape is the best choice. ETI does not market it as a 5-season trailer. But if you really want to create vents, I would do it the way Mike (Devil Dog) suggests. Round vents are readily available and clean openings can be cut with the matching sized hole saw using an electric or battery powered drill.
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:19 AM   #8
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I’m not sure an Escape is the best choice. ETI does not market it as a 5-season trailer.

Uhm...I’ve heard of the Fifth Element and a fifth of booze, and of course the 5th of May pops into my head too, but I’m drawing a blank on what that fifth season might be...wintertime in the eerie alien landscape of Quartzite?
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:20 AM   #9
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I wonder if storing the soda in those inexpensive foam coolers would provide enough insulation to keep them from freezing.
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In one of our previous units we camped in extreme cold and did not want things freezing.
I used the round vents listed earlier and added a low draw fan to the inside of the cabinet at the vent, added a small switch and in very cold we ran the fans on and off to assure no freezing. A remote read thermometer helped monitor the area

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