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11-10-2014, 08:19 PM
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What I like about using RV antifreeze is that when I see pink come out of the taps I know I'm good to go.
With compressed air ( even though I have and use a low-point drain ), I couldn't see the evidence.
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11-10-2014, 08:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
What I like about using RV antifreeze is that when I see pink come out of the taps I know I'm good to go.
With compressed air ( even though I have and use a low-point drain ), I couldn't see the evidence.
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Yep, and then after the antifreeze does it job of pushing the water thru you can just drain out what's left of it. But as Donna says YMMV.
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11-11-2014, 05:17 AM
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Sounds like you are fine Bill, in my 21' I had water in the supply line to the pump right before the water heater bypass valve and could not get rid of it. After several hand pump cleanses I was finally able to get some pink there. Hopefully next year will be easier.
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11-11-2014, 05:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonbill
I've read the two pages in this thread and now I'm totally confused. I raised and lowered the trailer with the plug to the fresh water tank and waste tanks open. Most of the draining came when it was up. I can't find any other drain plugs outside, so I'm assuming there is no low drain plug on the 21.
I drained the water heater and turned the bypass value. I blew out the lines. I also ran the pump for 30 secs. There's anti freeze in the traps. Saturday I pulled the batteries and put the cover on.
Is there water some place else in a line somewhere in a 21 that needs to come out? If so, where is it?
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Bill, they are talking about the length of PEX between the water pump and the fresh water tank. A couple folks disconnected the tube from the pump and blew through it to clear. Sounds like it's a fairly long run from the front of the trailer to the back.
Pex is freeze "resistant", it expands and contracts without bursting, unlike copper. One would think you'd be okay as long as there is none in the pump, which running it for the 30 seconds should have cleared. Getting it out of the Pex is your call. Maybe one of the folks with a 21 can be more specific on where to access the tube if needed.
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11-11-2014, 09:55 AM
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Bill and Ann-Marie, Escape stopped installing low point drains at some point in time, so if you don't see them (one red & one blue) hanging down inboard of your entrance step, you don't have them. If you don't have them and follow Escapes posted winterizing method, I would expect that all water that could damage your trailer is out of your system. Other than handling potential moisture issues, you should be ready for winter.
Tom
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11-11-2014, 10:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
What I like about using RV antifreeze is that when I see pink come out of the taps I know I'm good to go.
With compressed air ( even though I have and use a low-point drain ), I couldn't see the evidence.
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I understrand your point, and agree with it. This winter, like last winter, I did all the winterizing things, but still fret about whether I did them correctly, in the right order, and whether or not a may have forgotten something. This is all pretty irrational, I know, but it is in my nature to fret.
Next year, I think I am going to pump anti-freeze through the lines until there is pink coming out. Then I am going to blow the antifreeze out. It will then go in to the traps, which is where I poured it directly this year. All in all, I will probably be using about the same amount of anti-freeze that I did this year. It will be a bit more work, but maybe worth it.
I am sure there is some ritual involving a dead chicken that would make me even more sure I have done all the right stuff, but so far, I haven't found it on the forum. :-)
Leon
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11-11-2014, 01:10 PM
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeonW
...I am sure there is some ritual involving a dead chicken that would make me even more sure I have done all the right stuff, but so far, I haven't found it on the forum. :-)
Leon
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Out my way, we do that all the time and call it "Wing Night".
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11-11-2014, 06:25 PM
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I drained my 19' today and followed the directions on the ETI website to a tee. Worked well but my water pump sure changed its tune (quite literally) after blowing-out all of the fixtures. I guess if I was dry, I'd sound a little different too...
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11-11-2014, 07:16 PM
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#29
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
The tank side of the winterizing T goes straight down through the floor beside the fill tube...
The T is on the upper left, tubes crimped on. I don't see any flex.
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Thanks for the illustration
The smoked coloured stuff all looks like unreinforced vinyl tubing, which is one option for what I mean by flex hose (although I would prefer the spiral-reinforced version, like this). It seems unlikely to me that freezing would burst the vinyl tubing in the photo, although fittings are always vulnerable.
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11-11-2014, 07:28 PM
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#30
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, British Columbia
Trailer: 19'
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardoz
I drained my 19' today and followed the directions on the ETI website to a tee. Worked well but my water pump sure changed its tune (quite literally) after blowing-out all of the fixtures. I guess if I was dry, I'd sound a little different too...
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Me too. The hose coming from my water pump to the cold water line was still almost entirely filled with water. I unscrewed it from the pump and blew it out. My toilet valve took one minute to get cleared of water by the pump.
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