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Old 07-10-2016, 07:56 PM   #161
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Yes, we are back to why Bear101 has a vey high number for a 19', a number that came from Escape.
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Old 07-10-2016, 08:20 PM   #162
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EDIT EDIT EDIT. Seems I threw a bad number out there. I don't know where that came from. Sorry. My dry weight is 3326 lbs as I wrote in an earlier post. Don't know where that other number came from. I doubt any 19 could get significantly higher than that. My axles are rated @ 2500 lbs (I confirmed the decal is correct by looking for a label on the axle itself). Here's a comparison between my previous 2014 (RIP) and the 2016:
GVWR: 4000 / 5000
Dry: 3021 / 3326
Cargo Cap: 979 / 1674

More than likely the previous frame/axle assembly was under-rated and the new model GVWR simply reflects the real capacity. The 300 lb weight increase is modest. Roughly half of that increase was probably the addition of the extra glass, the front box and the insulation. I doubt that i'll be much over 4000 lbs loaded with the water and propane tanks filled. I'm on a road trip shortly and if the scales are available I'll post the results.
thanks for the weight update, much better.... your build looks similar to what this camper is considering..if you get a chance a picture showing a side view of both your new trailer+tug attached it would be cool as your trailer and tug choices are similar to this camper and would help with the visuals. Happy camping!
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Old 07-10-2016, 11:46 PM   #163
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Cathy's right, we're back to the original question. I'll stick with my original comment that the new 19 will most likely come in under 4000 lbs with options - and loaded. Which means, a tow vehicle with a 5000 lb towing capacity should have no issues with it, provided the cargo capacity and GCWR are not exceeded.


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Old 07-11-2016, 01:37 AM   #164
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Reinforced walls???

What is the reinforced wall option? I don't see it in the options list. I have a 2010 F 150 with 103K miles already but I am planning to use it. Right now trying to decide between a 21 or a 5.0 TA. I will use it a lot in Colorado, Wyoming, Utah etc. with a lot of mountain driving so I am really inclined toward the 5.0 T A.
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Old 07-11-2016, 03:49 AM   #165
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Wow so we are back to a highlander with 5000 tow capacity should be able to tow a 2017 19 ? This thread has been a wild ride!
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Old 07-11-2016, 05:47 AM   #166
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The reinforced walls option is adding extra paneling (and weight) to specific walls in order to mount a television or other heavy item. I did one in BlackJack (wall between bed and bath) in order to attach towel racks in bath and magazine shelf next to bed. Some members seem to want all their walls reinforced as a "just in case future use scenario", however the non reinforced stock wall is certainly adequate to mount items using the command strips and similarly in homes, there are studs in the walls to attach a tv stand, particularly at the corners.
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:42 AM   #167
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Wow so we are back to a highlander with 5000 tow capacity should be able to tow a 2017 19 ? This thread has been a wild ride!
According to the latest real world measured weights spreadsheet Trailer Weights the average weight of current model 19 fully loaded is 3686#. (Thanks to Jon Vermilye for maintaining the spreadsheet.)

Reace told me he is seeing a 200-250# weight increase in the 2017 models. So at the 250# increase the real world weight average would be 3936#.


The current posted (website) Approx. Total dry weight of a base 19 (no options) is 2610#. Adding 250# to that would bring it to 2860# before options.
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I feel great today, maybe because I lost some weight
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:59 AM   #169
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I feel great today, maybe because I lost some weight
Now you can carry more stuff along in the new 19 then!
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Reace told me he is seeing a 200-250# weight increase in the 2017 models. So at the 250# increase the real world weight average would be 3936#.

The current posted (website) Approx. Total dry weight of a base 19 (no options) is 2610#. Adding 250# to that would bring it to 2860# before options.
Eric, I spoke to Tammy last week and when I asked about weights and she said the new Dry weight for the 19' is 2950lbs.
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