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Old 07-17-2016, 08:29 AM   #201
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Hello again, to follow up with information we received from ETI. The 19 ft trailer build sheet includes:
6 cu ft fridge, external fridge fan, exterior shower, dual 6 volt batteries, surge protector, removable power cord, pre wire for solar, air conditioner, Maxx fan upgrade 7500, extra insulation and frameless thermal windows, opening window bathroom (frameless thermal), opening window kitchen (frameless thermal), aluminum rims, power tongue jack, spray foam insulation under trailer, raised dinette and front storage box plus a few electrical additions and now just two walls reinforced.

The weight estimated by ETI is 3715 lbs BUT this is "filled with water" as was recently clarified. So assuming that means the 28 gallon fresh water tank is full as well as the 6 gallon water heater that would mean approximately 284 lbs of water making the dry weight with options 3431lbs.

We would likely travel with the freshwater tank full plus about 600 lbs of clothes, equipment and food so a loaded weight for us would be 4265 to 4315 lbs depending on whether we fill the water heater and based on the numbers we have from ETI. That is technically towable by a highlander with a 5000 lb tow rating
bear101, Good clarification from ETI. It looks like the options and weights of the New 19 are now comparable with the weights and options of the classic 21.

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Old 07-17-2016, 08:53 AM   #202
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HHmmmm,
If the new 2017 Escape 19 is getting close to the classic Escape 21 weights, I wonder if the axles should not be increased to 3000#? Why not get a heavier axle for an extra safety margin?
Would they ride stiffer if they have more capacity?
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:09 AM   #203
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Wetzk:The storage box is not level, to keep water off and to follow the trailer shape.
Dave, is that a Ram Quad cab? Do you have air bags in the back?
Our storage box is indented on the top which catches water and leaves a stained area. Have they changed the shape of the lid? That would be nice.
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:15 AM   #204
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bear101, Good clarification from ETI. It looks like the options and weights of the New 19 are now comparable with the weights and options of the classic 21.

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Now that has me worried. I have a 21 on order with my TV tow weight of 5200 Lbs and tongue weight of 520 Lbs. Will the increase take me to close for comfort . Have to see .
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:33 AM   #205
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Our storage box is indented on the top which catches water and leaves a stained area. Have they changed the shape of the lid? That would be nice.
I believe that "indent" gives strength and rigidity to the top.
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Old 07-17-2016, 11:51 AM   #206
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Our storage box is 7 seasons old. There are no stains on it or its top.
We use a good wax designed for fiberglass and keep things wiped off and clean. It was
among the first ones built, is used extensively, and remains as sturdy, functional and
attractive as new. Wouldn't be without it!
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Old 07-17-2016, 12:56 PM   #207
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HHmmmm,
If the new 2017 Escape 19 is getting close to the classic Escape 21 weights, I wonder if the axles should not be increased to 3000#? Why not get a heavier axle for an extra safety margin?
Would they ride stiffer if they have more capacity?
wondering same thing...sent email to Escape asking this about a week ago, no answer yet.
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Old 07-17-2016, 01:02 PM   #208
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Now that has me worried. I have a 21 on order with my TV tow weight of 5200 Lbs and tongue weight of 520 Lbs. Will the increase take me to close for comfort . Have to see .
Escape advised via email last week that their 2017 Escape 21 demo would be completed very soon and the official dry weight would be posted.
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Old 07-17-2016, 01:12 PM   #209
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Here's a pic of first trip out. I wasn't able to get any scale time so I've no idea what the loaded weight was.
thanks for the side view..helps visualize a similar tv+trailer rig in future
a couple of questions...

Ram Quad Cab with short bed (not long 6'4" bed)?

did you get high lift option on trailer?

is your stinger with ball straight or does it have any rise or drop to it?

factory spring suspension, no air bags or other rear suspension assist?

do you have factory standard/foldable side view mirrors (not special extendable towing mirrors option) and are they ok with Escape trailer?

from the looks of it the tailgate cannot be lowered completely without unhitching..correct?

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Old 07-17-2016, 01:13 PM   #210
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Now that has me worried. I have a 21 on order with my TV tow weight of 5200 Lbs and tongue weight of 520 Lbs. Will the increase take me to close for comfort . Have to see .
Steven, I assume you're talking about your Chevy Traverse with the max towing package and larger engine, as reflected in the chart below.

My take is that it's going to be near the limits with either the 2016 or 2017 model of the 21. It's not always just a question of capacities, but mass as well. My personal preference is a more substantial tow vehicle with a longer wheelbase for the 21. But having said that, if you come in under the numbers for GVWR, GCWR, cargo capacity, tongue weight and towing capacity, you 'can' tow the 21 with it. The numbers either work or they don't.
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